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  1919

  by l3gi0n in

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  when did the teachnig that jesus choose jehovahs wittness in 1919 start?.

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  Prophecies and 'end'

  by jamesd2004 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hey ya people,.

  hope all is well :) i know i havent posted much or atall really so sorry about that im just needing a little help i am i8 years old......., im just wondering because i am curretly friends with jw's and stuff (im not babtised though) and they keep sayng to me about the prohecies in the bible like the bible preticted ww1 to the exact date...religon is going to be banned in the great tribulation (then the end will happen) about the 7 global powers or something, and america now are the last superpower before the world ends, (anglo-saxon or something...) .

  i just need help about these...are these true?

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  Great Crowd vs. Other Sheep

  by prophecor in

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  2. bible

  would someone briefly help me understand the divide that exist between the great crowd and the remnant, 144,000 who go to heaven?

  what scriptural backing does the society use to justify their position that they are the only ones who are able to enjoy a covenant relationship with jesus christ, where those of the " great crowd " are only granted a relationship through extension through the 144,000?.

  i've been around the truth for a large portion of my life, never really knowing this was an issue.

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  Anointed JW That Pickets KH At Memorial Finally Disfellowshipped!

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i heard they made an announcement.

  he called the po to see whether he and his wife were announced as being d'fd.

  the po didn't want to talk to him but finally conceded that his wife was not d'fd.

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  remember apostates holding signs outside the convention?

  by in a new york bethel minute in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember there was one that used to go to my hall.

  he would say hi to my dad and my dad would ignore him.

  i know now that my father feels bad for that, but at the same time he had no choice.

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  Scholar, please don't post and run...

  by in a new york bethel minute in

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  2. bible

  now, could you do us all a favour and read the replies to your post in the 607 thread?

  there were a lot of questions raised by your comment and i think it would be a good witness if you would at least attempt to answer them.

  two very important ones are:.

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  Russell of Annointed, how do you know?

  by Woodsman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when russell started the wts and began promoting his epistimology the teachings were not what they were today.

  most noteable was that christ was present in 1874. thus he believed he and others were chosen by christ to be of the elect remnant who would serve as part of the 144,000 the witnesses recognize today.. the problem occurs when the wts, or judge rutherford, changed 1874 to 1914. .

  now christ did not perform any "inspection" until 1919.. he did not chose any fds until 1919.. well, russell was dead in 1919.. therefore prior to 1919 russell was just as any other christian group was.

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  Watchtower Gives Up Explaining 607 BCE Date!

  by VM44 in

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  2. bible

  this is a very important observation, that the watchtower has not tried to explain in print why 607 bce is the year for the destruction of jerusalem for the last 17 years!!!.

  all that the watchtower has done over most of the last two decades is to repeat over and over the year "607bce" in its publications as if it is an unquestioned fact!.

  the last time an explaination for the year was attempted by the watchtower was in 1988 when the "insight" volumes were published, but since then, no explaination for the validity of the year has appeared in print.. this must mean something, but what?

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  Is't God gonna kill SOMBODY on Armadeddon?

  by crankytoe in

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  2. beliefs

  maybe i'm confused, but most comments on on this subject seem to suggest that people are appalled at the idea that jw's say god will kill alot of people on armageddon.

  especially children.

  i'm wondering why is this so outlandish a concept?

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  Great Multitude and Heaven (scans needed)

  by golden age in

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  2. bible

  today in the wt literature, it is very clear that most people will stay on earth and the the 144k will go to heaven, but in review of the older literature it is very difficult to understand exactly what they believed.

  they had 4 classes the 144k who would go to heaven, a great company who would also be a heavenly class, but they also had two earthly classes.

  who were part of these earthly classes?

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