But, I bet they never knew who was disturbed by what. "Face your accuser" waits until the JC, where the accuser jumps out from behind a bush and yells, "Burn them! Burn the witches!"
AuldSoul
ok this is one for the books, my wife's great grandmother who is a miraculous 94 year old cervical and ovarian cancer survivor and a 87 year old man from the hall were just counselled on the need for a chaperon!
it seems someone was disturbed that the two were alone in her appartment!
she is practically housebound and his visits to shoot the breeze and talk about the old times were the highlight of her week.
But, I bet they never knew who was disturbed by what. "Face your accuser" waits until the JC, where the accuser jumps out from behind a bush and yells, "Burn them! Burn the witches!"
AuldSoul
ok... i just found this and i know it's been posted before, but i had to comment!!
i have tried to justify some of the changes, but this one can only be a lie.
it's a direct quote apparently from something somebody said.. so he either said 'within fifteen years' or he said 'soon'.. it is not possible it's just become clearer what he said, or they misheard him the first time.
Would you like to review another?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/100209/1.ashx
They intentionally implied that the World Book Encyclopedia supported their assertion that they are not propagandistic. Read that thread to find out what World Book really said.
AuldSoul
under the topic "are jehovahs witnesses a sect or a cult?
the last sentence of the first paragraph says "they do not look to any human, but rather to jesus christ, as their leader.".
if an active witness were to make this exact statement to an elder, he or she would throw up a red flag!
doofdaddy, great analogy. You gotta throw orange juice drinking into the mix. First, that may be okay. Gradually, it becomes clear that drinking orange juice is really the same thing as eating an orange and could not possibly be pleasing to God.
Then they come to realize that it is the citrus nature of the fruits that actually make them unclean, so they set about categorizing all the fruits that are citrus and those that are not.
Then the lawsuits for scurvy cases start. The Legal Department arranges for talks explaining that Vitamin C supplements are perfectly fine, even if derived from citrus fruits, while eating of the whole fruit would be a gross sin.
THEN they finally change the view. Sheez, you can that with almost anything! GREAT analogy, doofdaddy!
AuldSoul
in hardly 10 years, my psychical life had been destroyed, and then my soulical life had been demolished.
i was a tatters of a man.. i went to a psychiatrist...what a hopeless effort: at $150 an hour, i would've had to spend the next 10 years, and several hundreds of thousands of dollars, to "explain" to this man what i'd experienced.
even then, he wouldn't have been able to understand.
Craig, this is just what I need. Thank you, again. I know you are putting yourself through tortures getting this out, it is DEEPLY appreciated.
AuldSoul
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it can be family or a stranger, just anyone you admire for some reason.
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Hear! Hear! U/D!!! I also enjoy the reenactments of his speeches by Hal Holbrook. I suppose Hal Holbrook has to go up just for keeping Twain alive in the minds and hearts of so many people.
Douglas Adams, for opening my perceptions up to a new way of looking at things.
Tolkien for filling my new perceptions with wonder.
My grandfather for leaving the best example of an imperfect man a guy could hope for, and my grandmother for putting up with it.
My parents for giving me a way to feed my thirst for knowledge despite our financial hardships.
The PUBLIC LIBRARY (personified?), for being an ever-present sanctuary and repository of collective human knowledge and thinking.
Simon and Angharad, for seeing that the benefits are worth tolerating what this forum does to their life.
AuldSoul
under the topic "are jehovahs witnesses a sect or a cult?
the last sentence of the first paragraph says "they do not look to any human, but rather to jesus christ, as their leader.".
if an active witness were to make this exact statement to an elder, he or she would throw up a red flag!
panickattack, it is only a lie if the householder deserves to know the truth. They are worldly people, deserving of destruction. How could such a person be considered "deserving" of accurate knowledge.
It is not until they become baptized that they find out that there actually are humans BETWEEN them and God, and that Jesus is only a mediator for some other people that they will likely never be a part of. It is only then that they are in the ark, separated from this old wicked system (society). It is only then that they can be said to deserve accurate knowledge.
You know, after it's too late.
AuldSoul
here's a precious little gem for jehovahs witnesses who deny what their organisation really teaches.. when they are directly asked..." do you believe your the only ones who will be saved"?
they try and wiggle out of it with some vague, obscure answer.
below is what they really believe.. watchtower 1989 september 1 p. 19 remaining organized for survival into the millennium .
In case I didn't draw quite enough attention to it, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME Schizm has been shown that Hebrews believe "highest heaven" = "third heaven."
He didn't respond to that, or to my questioning what the FDS actually has authority over.
0 for 3, Schizm. We have to count both instances of cowardice about "third heaven." As I said, Revelation 19:8.
AuldSoul
here's mine:.
title: "i yam what i yam".
i think farting is funny.. when an old ac/dc song comes on the radio, i turn the volume to the max even though it makes the speakers crap out.
"Slightly overweight Internet addict seeks frequent sex from wife."
Wow, that would be one cheap add !
insight book, page 244-245: "lie.
the opposite of truth.
lying generally involves saying something false to a person who is entitled to know the truth and doing so with the intent to deceive or to injure him or another person.
I have told my father outrightly that I apply the standards of the Insight book regarding "Lie" when speaking with him, that I use the same standard he uses.
He said, "So you are saying we [the elders] can't believe what you say?"
I said, "Well, I don't mind if you believe me. I don't mind at all."
AuldSoul
todaythings have really come to a head and i have a massive decusion to make by 7pm tonight!.
basically i have been dfed since march tryed to get reinstated two weeks ago but they said no, thing is i only did it for my family esp my dad he is not well and i love him to pieces.
but when i got dfed i had a boyfriend and things have been up and down (hes put up with alot) but he is sticking by my side and i love him and want to be open about him and not lie anymore, .
(((Cordelia))), if it isn't representative of YOU as a person, then it isn't integrity. Integrity is unaffected by the outside world, if you aren't true to yourself eventually you will be someone you don't like at all.
I only have a question. It isn't a recommendation, just a question: Do you love your bf?
Here's another: Does he know?
Your dad knows you love him, he also knows you don't love the organization. He isn't confused about your loyalties, he is trying to change your loyalties to loyalties he likes better. From what you have written, you bf is inccredibly confused about your loyalties. That would be hard on any man.
For what it's worth, my thoughts are often with you.
AuldSoul