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  Fairy tales - unsuspected effects on children?

  by Spectrum in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  a couple of years ago there was an article on tv discussing the possible negative effects that that fairy tales can have on children especially girls.

  i don't remember it very well but basically they were saying that fairy tales, especially the ones that involve beautiful girls or princesses, put unnecessary pressure on little girls from a very young age to have to look pretty if they are going to get their prince charming or do well in general in real life.

  it makes sense because it seems to fall under the category of conditioning and it's easy to condition children.

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  Spectrum

  Sentient,
  
  Great post.
  
  "If you ingrain in a child that there is an unlimited world of possibilities open to them (even if you raise the child in poverty), that they are a loved and wonderful person and that they really can create a life they dream of, "
  
  If we do the above for children then they'll have the confidence of making their dreams come true.
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  Friends or not Friends?

  by whyamihere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have a question or an issue if you will.......... .

  this is about a friend, that i used to have.

  now this has been all recent...... .

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  From what you've written here I'll say that you have done nothing wrong. He sounds like a spoilt child. I don't want her and nobody else is going to have her either. That's unbelievably selfish considering he dumped her. He might not be the marrying kind but others are.
  I wouldn't waste my emotions over someone behaving in this way.
  
  Forget it find new friends
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  Fairy tales - unsuspected effects on children?

  by Spectrum in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  a couple of years ago there was an article on tv discussing the possible negative effects that that fairy tales can have on children especially girls.

  i don't remember it very well but basically they were saying that fairy tales, especially the ones that involve beautiful girls or princesses, put unnecessary pressure on little girls from a very young age to have to look pretty if they are going to get their prince charming or do well in general in real life.

  it makes sense because it seems to fall under the category of conditioning and it's easy to condition children.

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  FlyingHighNow,
  
  I think you are right a couple of chapters are missing but the ones you are implying would be a real downer for the children and not fun.
  
  Are you blaming fairy tale stories for you marriage break-up?
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  Fairy tales - unsuspected effects on children?

  by Spectrum in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  a couple of years ago there was an article on tv discussing the possible negative effects that that fairy tales can have on children especially girls.

  i don't remember it very well but basically they were saying that fairy tales, especially the ones that involve beautiful girls or princesses, put unnecessary pressure on little girls from a very young age to have to look pretty if they are going to get their prince charming or do well in general in real life.

  it makes sense because it seems to fall under the category of conditioning and it's easy to condition children.

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  Spectrum

  Terry,
  
  Thanks for that indepth analysis. Quite enlightening. I must ask you then what's good fun entertainment that can stimulate a childs fertile mind? I think you've pretty much precluded all the traditional stuff.
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  Fairy tales - unsuspected effects on children?

  by Spectrum in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  a couple of years ago there was an article on tv discussing the possible negative effects that that fairy tales can have on children especially girls.

  i don't remember it very well but basically they were saying that fairy tales, especially the ones that involve beautiful girls or princesses, put unnecessary pressure on little girls from a very young age to have to look pretty if they are going to get their prince charming or do well in general in real life.

  it makes sense because it seems to fall under the category of conditioning and it's easy to condition children.

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  "Most are almost obvious,"
  
  Obvious about what?
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  Fairy tales - unsuspected effects on children?

  by Spectrum in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  a couple of years ago there was an article on tv discussing the possible negative effects that that fairy tales can have on children especially girls.

  i don't remember it very well but basically they were saying that fairy tales, especially the ones that involve beautiful girls or princesses, put unnecessary pressure on little girls from a very young age to have to look pretty if they are going to get their prince charming or do well in general in real life.

  it makes sense because it seems to fall under the category of conditioning and it's easy to condition children.

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  Spectrum

  A couple of years ago there was an article on TV discussing the possible negative effects that that fairy tales can have on children especially girls.
  
  I don't remember it very well but basically they were saying that fairy tales, especially the ones that involve beautiful girls or princesses, put unnecessary pressure on little girls from a very young age to have to look pretty if they are going to get their prince charming or do well in general in real life.
  It makes sense because it seems to fall under the category of conditioning and it's easy to condition children.
  
  If this is true then the continued use of these "benign" tales should be reconsidered.
  What do you all think?
  
  Any child psychologist here that can shed expert light to this?
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  1914 question

  by drew sagan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  put aside all of the 607 b.c.e., there is another question that i'm not familiar with and mabyee some of you know what there explanation is, or if they don't even address the issue.

  we are all familiar with the account in daniel chapter five, and nebuchadnezzars dream about the tree.

  daniels explanation of this dream begins: .

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  Sorry Drew don't know.
  
  But Regarding the 1914 question where did Russell get the 607 date from if the bible didn't support it? Had 587bc already been identified by the secular contemporary or pre scholars of Russell?
  
  I'm not asking for a indepth stuff just a couple of pointers.
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  What is the wackiest thing God has ever done?

  by DannyBloem in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is it killing 42 children because they called prophet elisha a bald headed man (which he probably was, so they did ot even lie)?.

  is it killing 70000 innocent israelites because the king david does a counting of the people?

  (it is hard to keep the numbers right if the fluctuate so much).

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  Shazard,
  
  "Thinking that if God uses somebody to punish somebody else, then this first "somebody" is free of his own sins and deeds."
  That wasn't my point. God was using the gentiles to punish the israelites then punishing the gentiles for doing what God put in their mind(gentiles) to do.
  
  Imagine your dad telling you to hit your younger brother for not following his rules, so you hit your younger brother and your dad then wacks you upside the head for hitting your younger brother. When you've recovered, you ask your dad why he hit you, and he says, "you know that rule about not hitting your younger brother, well you broke it". You scratch your head trying to figure it out.
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  What is the wackiest thing God has ever done?

  by DannyBloem in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is it killing 42 children because they called prophet elisha a bald headed man (which he probably was, so they did ot even lie)?.

  is it killing 70000 innocent israelites because the king david does a counting of the people?

  (it is hard to keep the numbers right if the fluctuate so much).

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  Using gentiles to punish the israelites then punishing the gentiles for punishing the israelites. That's seriously unfair on the gentiles.
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  What is the best JW book please?

  by Clam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi everyone.. i'm keen to read more books about jw's.

  i've so far only read crisis of conscience but now have the appetite.i'd be more interested in the background of the organisation and what kind of people russell and rutherford were etc, but i'd also like to read any "apostate" exposes, especially ex elders.

  thanks in advance.

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  Spectrum

  Welcome Clam,
  
  try these
  
  
  The book below was read by a poster here and said it is very good.
  http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=Vw0eUgnCwH&isbn=0914675079&itm=2
  
  http://freeminds.org/psych/psych.htm
  
  The link below is very comprehensive in the subjects it chooses to analyse
  http://e-watchman.com/watchman-essays-collection.html