Cygnus

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  Jesus die about 30 CE

  by peacefulpete in

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  there is a geat amount of confusion among early christian trdaition as to when jesus died, some have said about 130 different opinions were held.

  the nt doesn't help pin it down as the dating in luke doesn't work.

  anyway the tradition that eventually won out was that jesus was baptised about 29/30 and killed 1-3 years later.. on another site someone speculated that it was jewish tradition that indirectly helped establish this timeline.

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  Cygnus

  Off topic: peacefulpete and narkossis I always enjoy reading your posts. :)
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  Current JW's Compared to 30...20, Even 15 yrs Ago

  by XBEHERE in

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  i have read on here over the past few years many threads pertaining to "the fall of the wt" most recently the "divided branch" one and also if jwish will become more mainstream.

  i think that jw's today are vastly different than several to a few decades ago.

  for instance, i am an active jw and i go through the motions and i can probably acurately assume that i am not alone... in fact there are many like me i am sure.

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  I haven't had much to do with Witnesses for 8 years now. My most recent episodes (in the last couple of weeks) were: an attractive young woman coming to my door to preach the good news BY HERSELF. Totally not allowed when I was a dub. Second, my ex-wife who is a practicing dub was going to let me sleep IN HER BED with her overnight even though we're divorced and I am disfellowshipped. No hanky-panky was going to occur but I guess the times, the are a 'changing.
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  O'Rielly Factor Jehovah Witness & Michael Jackson

  by rekless in

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  did you hear orielly say, micheal jackson is having a prayer session with jesse jackson.

  mr. jackson says he is a jehovah witness.if they come to my door, i'll let a big dog greet them.

  i was unable to quote the precise statement, but it is as close as i remember without recording his statment.. so one more negitive about the org.

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  Some days I wish I was Michael Jackson and not myself.
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  Who remembers "Welcome to the Great Crowd" ?

  by JustTickledPink in

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  i was baptized in 1986 at the tender age of 11 yoa, but i remember after sitting through that stupid talk (where i almost fell asleep, no kidding) and then prayer, then getting dunked, then they announced a welcome to all newly baptized people and said "welcome to the great crowd" .

  it's so weird remembering that specifically.. now i think, welcome to the great dwindling crowd of duped people not going anywhere.

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  Cygnus

  I was baptized in 1989 and I recall something similar being said by the brutha giving the talk.

  I can hardly forget a moment of it, from sitting up front to waiting to be called, to getting dunked, to changing clothes.
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  Violent Video games @ Bethel

  by NikL in

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  this e mail is making the rounds.

  i am not sure of the validity of it but here it is anyway.

  what i find amazing is that video games would be allowed in the first place.

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  Cygnus

  Banning violent video games from Bethel premises sounds legitimate to me. What they ought to be concerned with is how many young JWs play these games at home these days. This ain't Pac Mac and Donkey Kong we're talking about.
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  Joel update

  by joelbear in

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  well some of the same people are still here as when i was active here.. some updates on me.. i got my bachelors degree.. mitch and i are still together.

  16 years this month.. i now work in market research.. i have 125 board games.. i have now visited 20 national parks.. i have gained 30 lbs that i need to lose.. hugs to all.

  joel

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  All my love Joel, you big teddy bear you.
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  Study conductor claims the "WTS is not the FDS"...and other JW affirmations

  by M.J. in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am currently following the ongoing saga of a person who is studying to be a jw and her unbelieving husband's attempts to sway her in this endeavor.

  he has gotten her to read cofc and she's halfway through it, but nonetheless, she remains bound to the jws and wants to continue her persuit.

  he has tried to call into question that the wts could have been appointed by jesus as the "faithful, discreet slave", but the person she is studying with flat out told her that jws do not believe that jesus chose the wts as the fds and, that they don't believe that they are the one chosen religion/church.

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  Cygnus

  Ask what the third question during the baptism vows are. That ought to clear matters up sufficiently.
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  Have any of you examined early christian history and found many problems?

  by booker-t in

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  just for a moment imagine that you are talking to a person and he mentions to you that you have to baptize animals in order to be saved or that you have to believe in the trinity doctrine that is composed of god the father, god the son and god the mother(mary) would you believe that these were some of the things early christians believed in.

  would you be shocked to know that many dates were set for jesus to rapture up the christians in the sky and nothing materalized?

  many born-again christians argue you down tooth and nail stating that born-again christianity does not have skelatons in their closets like the mormons and jw's but the truth of the matter born-again christianity has many, many embarassing skelatons.

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  A somewhat knowledgable Hindu man once explained to me that one form of the early trinity was indeed Father, Son, and Mother (Mary). So I don't think it's beyond reason. Maybe the Shekinah light of the Israelite days morphed into a mother-god for some early Christians. All I know is, those people from 30 CE to 100 CE didn't have a lot of writing, communication, or base of operations as the book of Acts suggests, and I'm sure all sorts of ideas floated here and there word of mouth by myth-crazed persons who were lucky to live to be 40 years old.

  Edited to add: A very nice born-again lady who knew her scriptures was staying in the mental ward I stayed in for 3 days after my nervous breakdown and I bought her a new King James Bible as a present when I came back to visit and she was so happy and gracious. Just because people believe in weird things doesn't make them bad people.
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  Yes, Life is Amazing but it's also.......

  by Cygnus in

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  ..... a real mess.

  i have decided i am well mentally some days and other days i'm not.

  i have deleted my yahoo accounts as most of the people there are worse off than i am.

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  ..... a real mess. I have decided I am well mentally some days and other days I'm not. I have deleted my yahoo accounts as most of the people there are worse off than I am. Most of you people here at JWD seem to have level heads on your shoulders and positive things to say so I read here from time to time. Another thank you to all who have sent me private messages of support, and joannadandy is an absolute goddess. I say that here because these words will be archived and perhaps saved forever and she is deserving of such eternal praise.
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  JW in Canada wins $30k for not wanting to place Christmas decorations

  by Dogpatch in

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  take steps to avoid human rights disasters

  in most discrimination cases that go to court, an employee's complaints were ignored: problem may be hidden

  marilyn linton

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  Cygnus

  Eduardo, nice to see you and it is a pleasure to read your posts.

  The law aside, the JW was simply being a dick. I know of a lot of JWs who gladly consent to keep in the good graces of their employers by bending WTS' rules for the sake of their employment.

  By the same token, several years ago when my JW parents operated a store, they did not put St. Nick or Frosty the Snowman in the windows but just decorated with 12 inch snowflakes. The elders told them to take them down as apparently snowflakes are associated with Christmas. My parents told them where they could put the snowflakes once spring came.