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  A Note of Sanity

  by Know_You in

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  i'd like to inject a note of sanity into this wasp's nest of disgusting apostate vermin.

  between all the bickering and backbiting, you have, as the scriptures foretold, not noticed that the day is upon you.

  already it is the auspicious month of october.

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  My sides hurt from laughing...
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  Why do we age?

  by haujobbz in

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  stupid question but why do we age, although scientists think it genetic, is it really why we age.. religion says its due to sin.. evolution says what on this subject.

  its strange because many yearn for eternal life and thats probably why so many are attracted to religion.. i suppose it could be us wanting to survive, its still strange though because its such a waste .

  im confused.

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  Interesting post Valis. My question is, where is the money going to come from to support these people that live to 120-130 years old? Most people retire with only enough cash to get them through a few years at most. I guess people are going to start having to stay in the workforce a lot longer. Our generation (gen x) is going to pay taxes big time to support the narcissistic baby boom generation as it gets older. I don't think that we or the following generations are going to have near the standard of living they had.
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  What are your thoughts on writing DA letters?

  by mamashel in

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  as most of you know, i have been inactive for about 2 1/2 yrs and completely out for about 7 months.

  i am debating on wether or not to write a letter of da to the org or not.

  in some ways i just want closure, and on the other hand i dont want to play by their rules.

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  I DA'd, and I used to post in favor of disassociation, but now I'm more neutral, leaning against it (thanks to JT). Why give them an excuse to slander you mercilessly? I know that's what they're doing with me -

  "Dan just never took deep root in the troof..."

  "Dan was always waiting for some sister to come along and make him happy..."

  "You always wondered whether Dan was going to make it. It seemed like he just never quite got it..."

  "Dan DA'd to get back at so-and-so"

  "Dan just couldn't accept the imperfections of the bros and sisters..."

  "He was kind of a weirdo anyway..."

  Maybe these are paranoid imaginings, but I was around long enough to know how they are.

  They'll never think for a minute that you have solid rational reasons for doing so. The average dub is completely convinced of the WT's supposed airtight doctrine. I remember a overhearing a coversation between two sisters about a year before I left. The one was saying to the other "why would anybody ever leave this wonderful org??" My disassociating was a bit of a drama queen maneuver, a hasty knee-jerk reaction to my discovering the truth about the truth.

  If you do decide to DA, make sure you think about it long and hard.
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  Which "APOSTATE" Site Helped You Out ...

  by minimus in

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  h2o and watchtower observer were the ones that helped me the most.

  of course, jwd is the best discussion forum on the net.

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  I spent a few days perusing www.escapefromwatchtower.com before I started looking at other sites. It has changed a lot since then.
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  Have you ever had a premonition?

  by DanTheMan in

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  in 1990 one of my best friends (mike) was riding in a van with another friend of mine who was driving (scott).

  they pulled into the parking lot of a mini-mart that was in a bad part of town, to say the least (people often referred to it as "uzi alley").

  the reason they pulled in was because they thought they recognized someone in the parking lot.

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  In 1990 one of my best friends (Mike) was riding in a van with another friend of mine who was driving (Scott). They pulled into the parking lot of a mini-mart that was in a bad part of town, to say the least (people often referred to it as "Uzi Alley"). The reason they pulled in was because they thought they recognized someone in the parking lot. It turned out that it wasn't who they thought it was.

  As they backed away, one of the persons standing in the parking lot said "watch who you roll up on next time" or something like that. Scott wasn't happy with that, and lobbed a few choice words back at him. Well, the dude pulls out a gun and shoots at them as they are driving off! The bullet hit Mike at at an angle and got lodged in his temple, causing a flesh wound but nothing more (he was quite lucky). At first Mike didn't realize what had happened. He felt a stinging sensation coming from his temple and instinctively reached his hand up to it. When he pulled his hand back into his sight, he saw that it was covered in blood. So Scott took him to the hospital, where they removed the bullet and kept him overnight.

  I was unaware of all this until late in the afternoon the next day, when I received a phone call from this girl Abby that was part of our crowd. The strange thing was, is that all day I had been thinking to myself "something has happened to Mike". At one point I even said it out loud to myself. When Abby called, the news that he had been shot at and was in the hospital came as no surprise.

  Mike and I had hung out together so much during our childhood and into early adulthood that it seemed like we were somehow connected to each other, almost like twins or something.. We knew each other so well, it was like we understood each other completely. (We later had a falling out, and then I joined JW's, and we haven't spoken in years).

  I have wondered about that incident ever since. How did I know that something bad had happened to him? Has anyone else experienced something like this?
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  Bali terrorists - doing Jeh's will?

  by PopeOfEruke in

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  as most if not all of the 187 people killed in the bali bomb attack were not jehovahs witnesses, none of them probably had a chance of surviving armageddon (tm), which, as a d.o.

  pointed out recently, is due to begin any minute (tm) now!!!.

  so now, thanks to the bali terrorists, these 187 people now have basically won the lotto!

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  Funny! Just think of the poor suckers who survived it. When Jeh's day of vengeance comes and they realize that God is going to kill them permanently, and just think if they had been a little closer to the blast, they would be among the dead to be resurrected in Paradise instead of post Armageddon bird feed!
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  Larc's weekend survey

  by larc in

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  could you please take a few minutes to answer the following questions:.

  1. your age.

  2. how long were you a witness.

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  1. your age 31

  2. how long were you a Witness 9 years between baptism and disassociation

  3. how long have you been out of the religion. 7 months

  4. which of the following symptoms did you experience as a witness.

  4a. depression yes

  4b. low self esteem yes

  4c. anxiety yes

  4d. psychosis no

  5. Today, which of those symptoms do you have? all of them except 4d

  6. Today, how would you rate your overall degree of happiness 1. much less happy than as a JW 2. somewhat less happy 3. just as happy 4. somewhat more happy 5. much more happy. - Depends on the day. Today I would say 2, other days a 4 or 5. I guess on average I'd say 4.
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  Thought for the Day

  by alfie in

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  "see, the problem is that god gives men a brain

  and a penis, and only enough blood to run one at a time.

  -- robin williams

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  I think women enjoy it more - they can have one O after another, like waves crashing on a beach, while we guys are spent after just one.
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  Are you afraid to die?

  by kenpodragon in

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  i was about 12 years old when this happened, but i remember it like it was yesterday.

  it was a late evening and i was by myself in our home.

  i grew up in a country home far from most any thing.

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  When we come to terms with death, and when we accept our own personal view of what death is. We begin to live life and know what is in it for us, perhaps we develop a healthy fear of living and stop having the unhealthy fear of dying.

  I only left JW about 6 months ago, and during my 10 year cult ride I never gave any serious thought to my own mortality (I was gonna live forever).

  Since I left, the recognition of my own mortality and the shortness and seemingly futile nature of our existence has hit me full force. I'm very much struggling with finding purpose and meaning in life and death. Also, at around the same time I left I moved from an apartment in the suburbs to a house in a more poor urban area. This change of scenery hasn't helped me much either, as I just don't understand psychology/sociology of the somewhat savage, dog-eat-dog world of the urban lower-class.

  Nobody in my immediate family has died. However, my dad is near 65 and that is somewhat long-lived for males in his family. He does not manage stress or anger well, I don't see him living much past 70, so I know that I will be dealing with that in the next decade probably. I also have an autistic brother who is only a few years older than me, but I do not expect him to live for much more than another decade, as he has the worst eating habits you could possibly imagine (fat, grease, sugar, cholesterol to the max). He has lived somewhat of a nightmarish life. He was teased mercilessly as a kid, by kids in the neighborhood, and by me too (something that I gives me a lot of guilt and regret). At school, he was always lumped with the "retards" even though he was extremely capable in some areas. In his 20's he started having seizures, for which he now has to take large quantities of medication to prevent, but he still has them occasionally. He works vacuuming floors at a hotel, and essentially lives a loner life, which is fine with him as he simply does not relate to other people aside from the most basic things. He lives near where I work and I could easily visit him more often than I do but to be honest visiting with him depresses me. I wonder what in the hell the purpose of his life is, if any. It seems that he would be better off...you know.

  I'm rambling...I'll stop now.
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  Fanatacism

  by Satanus in

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  here are some sayings about fanatics and fanatacism.

  feel free to add quotes, whiticisms or zingers.

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  Eric Hoffer

  The fanatic is not really a stickler to principle. He embraces a cause not primarily because of its justness or holiness but because of his desperate need for something to hold onto.

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  Though they seem at opposite poles, fanatics of all kinds are actually crowded together at one end. It is the fanatic and the moderate who are poles apart and never meet.

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  A doctrine insulates the devout not only against the realities around them but also against their own selves. The fanatical believer is not conscious of his envy, malice, pettiness and dishonesty. There is a wall of words between his consciousness and his real self.

  http://www.freedomsnest.com/hoffer.html