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Hi, it's me again

by fullofdoubtnow in

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it's really great to be back on here, i've missed you all so much.

i'm home for the weekend, and feeling a lot better than i was earlier in the week.

i picked up an infection and felt really awful for a day or two, but it's ok now.

penny2

Hi Linda, you are sounding chirpy, that's great. Good to hear there was an explanation for you feeling so ill and that's not what it's going to be like the whole time.

penny2

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1995 The Year That Saw A Turning Point

by The wanderer in

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1995 the year that saw a turning pointduring the 1980s, the thought that this generation will not pass until all .

of these events occur was the watchtowers theme.

the countdown .

penny2

1995 was particularly significant to those who had already lived through 1975. To think I should have started investigating 20 years before is annoying. Oh well, better late than never.

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Welcome New Ones To The Forum

by Quandry in

sometimes i don't have time to look at all the new posts, and i miss some of the new posters, like king tut and others.

if you are new here, i just wanted to say welcome to the forum.

it is always great to have new ones and read your stories.

penny2

Welcome newbies!!!

There have been so many who have shared their stories with us. Some can't share because they are fading. Some only stay for a short while - hopefully this is because they have been helped and can then move on.

It gives us hope that many are having their eyes opened.

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The Whole WTS is a corrupt bunch of lying false prophets!!

by cultswatter in

this topic has been talked about before but it is worth mentioning again.

the revelation grand climax book is currently being studied ar the book studies world wide (4th time) usually on tuesday nights.

at the book study the jws are force fed false doctrine by the wts evil slave class.

penny2

It makes me mad too, especially when I hear my JW family say how much their faith is being strengthened by studying the book again.

GRRRR!

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Wanted: Outrageous WT Qotes

by Gerard in

i post regularly in an international web-based group regarding the sport i do.

one of the group members is a jw and always signs his posts with: "that people may know that you, whose name is jehovah, you alone are the most high over all the earth.

i kindly asked him three times to stop his preaching in our sports forum but he persists.

penny2

six thousand years of human history end about the fall of 1975 C.E.

WT 15 Jul 1967

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One night stands

by Crumpet in

how do you stand on one night stands?

and why?

i was really against them and said i never would again.

penny2

One night stands don't appeal to me. But when you have a one night stand, you don't think at that time, that it's just going to be for one night, do you? You think it's going to be wonderful and that you'll want to be together for a bit longer - don't you?

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Is Fading a DF Offense?

by besty in

wife sweet pea and i are just starting the 2nd phase of our fade, which as we are already inactive and at 50% meeting attendance, means stopping going altogether.. supposing the elders decide they want to make a shepherding call - which we naturally decline - could they announce us as 'no longer known as jw's' for declining the call, not being at meetings and being inactive?.

what if we did take the shepherding call and told the elders we just weren't coming back, with no specific reasons given?

they would be bound to ask if we still believed the fds doctrine, which we could lie about use theocratic warfare strategy and say we were just a bit depressed, with money worries, struggling with the routine etc and would probably be back soon.. thoughts?.

penny2

Whether an announcement is made or not, the reality is the same.

Sorry Fred, to us fading is not dying. It's starting to live. And the reality is different. If you are D/Fd or D/S yourself, your JW family won't speak to you anymore. This has lifelong consequences. If there is a family wedding for example, and one D/F person is going to be there, no JWs will attend. If you've faded, you have no official status and family can continue to associate with you.

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Is Fading a DF Offense?

by besty in

wife sweet pea and i are just starting the 2nd phase of our fade, which as we are already inactive and at 50% meeting attendance, means stopping going altogether.. supposing the elders decide they want to make a shepherding call - which we naturally decline - could they announce us as 'no longer known as jw's' for declining the call, not being at meetings and being inactive?.

what if we did take the shepherding call and told the elders we just weren't coming back, with no specific reasons given?

they would be bound to ask if we still believed the fds doctrine, which we could lie about use theocratic warfare strategy and say we were just a bit depressed, with money worries, struggling with the routine etc and would probably be back soon.. thoughts?.

penny2

No but don't ever let them catch you with:

A xmas decoration on your door
A xmas tree in the window
Easter eggs in your shopping trolley

You may be branded an apostate and regarded as having disassociated yourself by your actions. That's why some move away after they have faded so they are not known by the local elders.

It's crazy!

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More drama between my mom and I

by reneeisorym in

your great-aunt brittney died tuesday morning she was found on her kitchen floor dead.

her funeral was this morning.

omg .. my mother just sent me this email.

penny2

Renee, I think it's just awful the way you are being treated. At 25, that's way too young to be without your whole family. I think it would do you good to reconnect with your lost cousins. It may help them too - I'm sure they've got a few stories to tell. Your whole family being JWs - that would have affected your cousins as well.

Thinking about your mum - her treatment of you made me angry. I can also see how she might have become that way considering how she has been brought up (presume she grew up as a JW). You have not only left but joined another religion. That makes you an apostate in her eyes - you are in the worst category. It doesn't matter how much she loves you or would like to talk to you, she's not allowed to. At least that's what she thinks. She would know that your aunt's death is "necessary family business" but she so fears meeting you that she doesn't contact you until after the funeral. I think she feared how she would cope meeting you, in the presence of her JW family and the non-JW relatives. The JWs would be judging her and the non-JWs would think how crazy it all is. So she has this huge conflict going on.

Don't forget that JWs don't do any thinking for themselves. All their decisions are made for them. So when they are in an unfamiliar situation, they don't know what to do. Whereas you were "thrown in the deep end" and had to make a life for yourself without any family support, your mum is still dependent and in a way, immature. Does that make sense?

Maybe my assessment is wrong but one thing is for sure. It's sad and something you shouldn't have to deal with.

penny2

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The serious conversation with the wife about the cult- part 2

by OnTheWayOut in

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the book study overseer hasn't asked why i won't come to the bookstudy, he gets .

be the month i stopped going to the k.h.

not going this week than it was about missing other meetings.. i told her that i would not be going to the meetings at all anymore.

penny2

Congratulations on your milestone, OTWO! I know how much of a relief it is to decide never to go to meetings again.

I am on a short vacation (spending time with the wife, rejuvenating our love

Hope you and your wife are enjoying the vacation. Now don't spend too much time on here!

He became a JW just to get me to marry him.

You must have had some stressful times, reneeisorym, but at least one good thing came out of it - he helped you see the light.

penny2