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  Now this really irritates me

  by startingover in

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  2. friends

  my jw father recently passed away, and when hedid i thought it would be kind to contact all his email contacts to inform them what happened.

  since i knew many of these people, i included my email address.

  after the intial few rerturn emails with condolences, i have continued to get emails from the one person.

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  Dagney

  My mother lives in an assisted living home and I hear from my "elder" brother she is on a mission with the KN.

  Maybe this sister and my mother were twins separated at birth.
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  What is your favorite Bible Translation?

  by Lo-ru-hamah in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  do you have a favorite translation?

  king james, niv, or others that i might not of heard of that are perhaps more poetically written.

  or a style/version that you particularly like?.

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  Dagney

  New Jerusalem Bible...love it love it love it.

  Took it to the hall for the last year of my attendance, and got about three others to do the same. Great footnotes, timelines and intro's, helps you understand more about what you are reading...all in one place.
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  Who does your Favorite rendition of 'White Christmas'?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i am smitten with christmas music now.

  i love it - after 40 years of cringing at the sound of the season.. i just made a cd with about 20 different renditions of white christmas.

  i am currently listening to the 'three tenors' version.

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  Dagney

  Yep...Bing for me too!!!! Hearing it all my life and secretly loving it, and the movie.

  And I so agree, Judy Garland's rendition of 'Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas' is beautiful.

  I now have the "Charlie Brown Christmas" by Vince Guaraldi CD. Pretty great.
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  Who is DF/DA or Fader???

  by mama1119 in

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  i was just wondering, how many dfed to we have on here compared to da or faders??

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  Dagney

  Baptised 1968 @ 13 yrs old.

  Faithful and continuously active until I stopped one day after a WT study the summer of 2001, and never went back.

  Thought of myself as a fader, but as pointed out, I am probably a "stopper" or "quitter." (lol)

  However, yesterday my JW g/f said the cong. secretary followed her out to the car last Tuesday and asked for my address. She told him she didn't have it with her. She said if it is alright, she would give it to him, but she'd make him work for it. He told her the storyline about wanting to know where everybody was after Katrina. And she expressed it is what they "should be doing." He wants to send my card out to the hall where I belong. (Get me off their "inactive" list is more the issue.)

  Of course I wanted to scream "Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!"

  It was so nice living under the radar.
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  At fifty, the madwoman in the attic breaks loose............" - Erica Jong

  by Sunnygal41 in

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  i was thinking this morning about an incident that happened yesterday and came to a very welcome realization..like rett butler, i simply dont give a damn..what others preconceived notions or expectations of me are anymore.i am happy, and content with who and where i am in my life.its a good place to be emotionally and mentally, after being soooo tormented for so many years.with all the negative people pleasing baggage i carried around.its like erica jong said:at fifty, the madwoman in the attic breaks loose, stomps down the stairs, and sets fire to the house.

  she won't be imprisoned anymore.its a great place to be, as a woman.anyone else care to share?.

  terri.

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  Dagney

  This is soooo true!

  Great thread! I identify with it all.

  "Free at last, free at last...thank God Almighty I am free at last."
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  Introducing myself

  by skyking in

  1. social
  2. family

  i was raised a jw, third generation.

  grampa was a congregation servant and then elder, my dad was an elder for years.

  i made it up the ranks fast, you were not anybody if you did not become an elder, i was appointed at an early age.

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  Dagney

  I'm new here are well!!!

  Welcome Skyking. You are gonna love it out here.

  Dag
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  Did you ever hear any active witness complain or criticize the Org?

  by JH in

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  it seems to me that all the jw's i knew while going to the meetings, weather they were spiritually strong or weak, never criticized.

  they were like real sheep.. i used to always bitch about the length of the meetings and the time of the meetings and so on.....when i drove the brothers back home in my car or talked to them in private.. naturally i would only say this to my closer jw friends or those i knew wouldn't squeal on me.. .

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  Absolutely. I have spent many many nights with a select group of elders/wives who complain about the same things I do, we do. The treatment of the flock, including the shunning policy, the reporting of time and judging publishers by it, the lack of "Jesus" in the overall programs, (thanks to Ted), the poor meeting content, lack of support for widows and orphans...etc.

  They told me they want to affect change from the inside...way to much to lose...family, friends...social environment. Now we've been apart for close to 5 years now, and I doubt anything critical of the organization would be mentioned to me ever again.
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  THE REAL REASON FAMILY MEMBERS SHUN.........................

  by vitty in

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  i think the real reason family members shun their "loved ones" is not because they love you and think it will bring you back, or that they are being obedient to god, but that you have totally embarrassed them, brought the family name into disrepute and it now brings into question how spiritual they are.. if they shun you, in their minds, they think the elders, and dubs will not think less of them.

  its all about what the "neighbours " think not what the bible teaches.. its about pride not love.. what do you think?.

  oh and it gives them brownie points to be used at armageddon.......................just in case.. .

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  that they are being obedient to God, but that you have totally embarrassed them, brought the family name into disrepute and it now brings into question how spiritual THEY are.

  I think that is very true...for many.

  And I also think they are envious because we don't have to go to the hall and they do. So they pull out the superior "holier than thou" attitude when they are secretly wishing they could stay home also! They think we are getting by with something...
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  How many 'real" friends did you ever really have in ther "truth'

  by The Lone Ranger in

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  2. friends

  sure we got to know a lot of people, we knew a lot more people then the average person, but how many real friends did we ever have?

  a friend that we could trust, that we could confine in.

  i can say i had just one, bro x and even then i still had to be careful, bro x is an elder now and he tells me that im the only real friend hes ever had, he cant freely talk to anyone.

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  Dagney

  
  This is an interesting question I have thought about for the last five years. Knowing when I stepped away that I would probably lose all the association I ever knew, it's a question I still think about.

  It was heartbreaking to realize that after being in a congregation for the last 22 years, that most of who I thought were friends were really acquaintances...but that's the truth. If you are not warming the KH seat, you are nothing. I had best friends, closer than family, and in my wildest imagination, I NEVER would have thought we would be apart...but they are elders and well connected...and it wouldn't do to have me as an association. Then I have one other couple that are active, and who are convinced I have not gone off to work in a brothel or worship the devil, who treat me no different. BUT, I realize, if the society comes down on inactive ones, they may be faced with a decision. And frankly, although sad, I understand...if you give your thinking over to the borg...it is to be accepted.

  So..."real" friends IMO in the org are totally conditional. They probably were very real friends when you were together...but the playing field has changed...so relationships change.

  One thing I do know for sure is you can find equally as real friendship everywhere...and people who care...and look to find a kind thing to do for their fellow human being. I feel that is not the case in the org. This is a lesson I have gladly learned.
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  Kingdom News 37 sneek preview

  by Midget-Sasquatch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well i setup an account at reexaminer.org eager to make a contribution but find that uploading was disabled (for now anyway).. so here's this year's supposedly hard-hitting expose on "false religion" aka kingdumb news 37. i hope these links work for all of you.

  http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5070/kn37p1wf7.jpg.

  http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4599/kn37p2rn0.jpg.

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  Dagney

  WOW! Thanks for sharing that! You guys are awesome. It's really fun to tell your JW friends you've already seen it or heard the information before they receive their own KM. I just love that.

  What a load of c**p. I think many of my friends are dreading this campaign, doubt if they will tell me that though. This subject was chosen probably as a lead in to the study of the Revelation book. (Goodness...I'm remembering those countless Awake covers with the pope or pictures of churches on the cover...presenting them at the door as a kid. Shiver)

  I actually think tract campaigns were good, aside from the guilt and pressure of the procedure in implementing it. I used to carry an extra nice little KN (I thought at the time anyway), that talked about world conditions and focused on a Bible study. I thought it was a good short and sweet handout at the door...as opposed to the magazines with articles like "Your Servant the Pencil" or "Disco...is it right for you?" LOL

  But this KN is an embarrassment to the WBTS. Couldn't happen to a nicer corporation, IMHO. Glad I have nothing to do with it.