ok, i've been df'd for 5 months or so now and i'm getting ready to write a letter requesting reinstatment.
i'm assuming something like "i know jah has already forgiven me so now i"m asking you imperfect sinners to forgive me my sins and give me my life back please".
wouldn't work.
Ok, I've been DF'd for 5 months or so now and I'm getting ready to write a letter requesting reinstatment. I don't know how to do this. I'm assuming something like "I know Jah has already forgiven me so now I"m asking you imperfect sinners to forgive me my sins and give me my life back please". wouldn't work.
So, what is supposed to be in a letter asking for those holy ones to bring me back from the dead?
you surely noticed that the jw's have an answer to everything.. question: my dad died.
jw answer: he will probably resurrect .
question: i don't feel well.
Problem: I'm depressed
Answer: Go out in service more
Problem: I might loose my job and my house
Answer: Go out in service more.
Problem: My daughter is pregnant and we don't know which biker is the daddy
Answer: Go out in service more
Problem: I really want to get married so I can feel complete and happy
Answer: Go out in service more
Problem: some of the things I hear at the meetings don't make sense to me
Answer: Go out in service more
Problem:I'm gay
Answer: Go out in service more
Problem: I have cancer, my kids hate me, I just found out I'm adopted and my dog died
Answer: Go out in service more, Go out in service more, Go out in service more, check the dog pound.
i went to the meeting yesterday (first time in a month due to a new baby then the other kids getting sick) and the wt study was about showing love for neighbor.
now my main issue with the org is the complete and utter lack of love i have been shown for pretty much my whole life and since that is what jesus said would define his people it's a sticking point with me.
so, while i sat there hearing this i was getting more and more ticked off.
I went to the meeting yesterday (first time in a month due to a new baby then the other kids getting sick) and the WT study was about showing love for neighbor. Now my main issue with the org is the complete and utter lack of love I have been shown for pretty much my whole life and since that is what Jesus said would define his people it's a sticking point with me. So, while I sat there hearing this I was getting more and more ticked off. Now, I know I made a major mistake in my life (see my story if you want details) but I am doing EVERYTHING in my power to rectify that and change my life totally. So how can you say you should show love to your neighbor but not show love to me just because I made a mistake? Where in the bible does Jesus say to show love to everyone except ones who are DF'd? Where does Jesus make an exception on who to show love to? So, after the meeting I was pissed and went into the coat room to get my coat in. I was so mad that I said "how can these hipocrites (good thing poor spelling doesn't come out in speech huh) talk about showing love? They don't even know what unconditional love is!! They only love you when you fit into thier narrow-minded idea of what a Christian is. Screw 'em!!" Then I turned around to see a brother there. He turned very quickly and left. I didn't see who it was, it could have been an elder from my JC for all I know.
Crap!
for those that don't know, i'd df'd and trying to lay low so i can be reinstated then fade................ i was talking with my wife and things (well, i) got heated.
we were talking about the whole df thing and my point is that what jw's do is not bible-based.
anyway she was saying that she trusts that this is jah's organization and the holy spirit is responsible for the elders actions and yadda-yadda-yadda.
For those that don't know, I'd DF'd and trying to lay low so I can be reinstated then fade...............
I was talking with my wife and things (well, I) got heated. We were talking about the whole DF thing and my point is that what JW's do is NOT bible-based. Anyway she was saying that she trusts that this is Jah's organization and the holy spirit is responsible for the elders actions and yadda-yadda-yadda. Well, after mentioning a number of things that would indicate how it was done in the bible and how it's done now she said, "well, I have complete faith in the organization." I jumped back with "ah-hah! You and the others in the congregation have faith in the organization but I have faith in God. That's the difference between us, I have faith in god.........." then I finally shut my pie hole. She was silent for a few seconds and I tried to change the subject. I think I done did it with that one.
Is there any saving my butt from being DA'd now?
if you've already been 'announced' and were at the kingdom hall to hear it, how did it feel?
i think when my time comes i may be there.
a part of me says "sod 'em", but another part wants them to see how happy i am.. hmmm, not sure..
I went to mine. It was for my wife though to let her know I wasn't deserting her. I left right after. I was soo pissed off I had to get outta dodge.
the last congregation we were at, decided to invite a neighbouring congregation to their territory to help them with the field service.. the elders asked my husband, if we would host the bbq for the brothers and sisters after the ministry, as we have a large garden.
we were told not to worry about the amounts of food, as everyone from the other congregation would bring something.
not even a bag of crisps arrived.
I'd send a note to the inconsiderate little prick saying
"If god didn't want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat"?
Then I'd send a letter to that PO bringing this to his attention and stating that the next time they come to help you will not be interested in hosting an event.
what kind of scandals have you heard about within the society?
i mean ones that seem at least valid.
there is a congregation close to me that had a number of the members df'd (including some elders and ms) due to wife swapping.
What kind of scandals have you heard about within the society? I mean ones that seem at least valid. There is a congregation close to me that had a number of the members DF'd (including some elders and MS) due to wife swapping. How about you?
have you ever lost any privilages due to being spiritually weak?
i wasn't going out in servive as much,not commenting and wasn't married to a witness.
i was taken off the ministry school talk # 2,couldn't pray for the congregation,was taken off the sound equipment,couldn't pass out literature,couldn't receive a blood card and finally couldn't receive any books because i wasn't considered part of the congregation.that was fine with me.. what were the signs you received from your congregation telling you that you were weak in the faith?.
Before my reply, I'll tell you a story I thought of while reading this.
My brother got me some very nice ties and some nice dress shirts as part of my graduation present. I was very proud (since I grew up in a below average houshold $$-wise) to wear these to the meetings. I wore a black shirt and a tie that looked great with that tie and the suit I was wearing. Anyway, I was counsled not to wear anything but white shirt on the platform and to the meetings for that matter. I listened like a good little lemming. A few months later this same elder wore a all black suit with red shoes, red tie and a red kerchief in the pocket.
Anyway, on to my reply. I was told that I couldn't handle mike's anymore because my attendance was down. The elders felt that when I was there I needed to pay attention to the meetings rather than carry mikes (like I ever paid attention, I usually day-dreamed). Anyway, I overcame that. Within a few years I was an MS handling the scheduling for all cong duties (mike handlers, stage, sound, security during the meetings), lit servant, accounts servant so I suppose either paying attention helped..........or maybe it was changing congregations haha.
Years later (10 years and 2 congs later to be exact) I was still an MS and married. My wife and I had the personal tragedy of our son dying. I was (we were) devistated and it showed in my meeting attendance and service. I was depressed. I asked the PO for help numerous times and didn't see any. I expressed my need for help with my depression and the questions that come with loosing a child. Again, nothing. Anyway, the point of my story is that when I moved to another house and another congregation, I was told me letter stated I wasn't in a position to be an MS. I lacked the spirituality to be an MS. Funny how the elders knew I was in such a dire spiritual state but didn't help me.
Anyway (sorry to hijack) I had all my privlidges taken away for my lack of spirituality. Look where I am now hahaha.
did you think it was a "show", when just about everyone showed up at the kingdom hall when he showed up that week?.
did you go out in the service that week more than usual, just to do like the others who were giving a show?.
the moment the co's week was over, the attendance always came back down to normal..
When I was younger, I really didn't care about the CO visit. As I got older, I looked forward to them because of the general air of good feelings you have in a cong, much like the feeling that pervades around Christmas time. As I got older still and became an MS I didn't like it as much because it was the same old info and I had to juggle my life around to make the meetings and service. I also noticed the BS in the congregation. All the fake people and the fake care the elders show.
real help!
please no criticism and such that people seem to spew!.
i have not been to a bookstudy in a year or been door to door either.. been using travel and health of my wife and family (actually very true) but they're relentless!!!.
I don't really have anything constructive to say (yet) but I read with great interes and thank you for posting. I'm DF'd and working to be reinstated so I can fade. I have begun to wonder if I can fade or if I am doomed to one of the big "D"s for life (df'd or da'd). Thanks for posting.
I'm eager to see what others experienced with thier fade or attempt to fade......................
