Posts by bobld

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Bethel and Prisons using slave labor for profit!

by Witness 007 in

behtel has workers who are paid basically nothing!

a small "re-inbursment" for expenses.

prison is the same...making license plates for $2 dollars an hour....mc donalds resturants are not far behind.

bobld

I really enjoy this topic because of the experiences of ex bethelites.As an example a brother was let go after 50 years in bethel.Now he is broke has 0ne used suit,is homeless no where to live.The GB is now looking for replacements.I say great let another sucker work for 50 years and get kicked out because he is no longer useful to the mother CORP.Isn;t it great for all the blind suckers,let them slave away for someone else for nothing.I love it the way they are treated.

Only one thing that I don't agree.They GB want charity status and we(GOV'T) have to look after these old people.After their productive are done and they made no contributions to 401k,no income tax for the gov't to fund the homeless,needy people which they are now.

Bob

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Watchtower society cutting LOTS of corners to save money!!! $$$$$ List?

by Witness 007 in

calanders cut to half their size...makes it hard to write your time in!

soft cover books replace hard covers, more wear and tear but less cost.

making a seperate watchtower for study saving on printing.

bobld

They introduced another way of making money.The TOAA( traveling overseer assist arrangement )for C.O. expenses travelling and dental.This is an absolute requirement that all cocgreation must pay,even if the publishers can't.

Bob

PS:All congregation already pay pay for his expanses.I don't know why they have to pay TOAA.

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Watchtower says "Field Service Report NOT a Major Concern!"

by UnDisfellowshipped in

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the watchtower, june 1st, 2005 issue, pages 14-15:.

"saved, not by works alone, but by undeserved kindness" (study article).

(paragraph 1): "christians [...] realize that in jehovah's service, right motives are more important than personal accomplishments.

bobld

Is this not a" born again" way of life.Now the older ones will not feel guilty.

Bob

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Could Watchtower Collapse Be Sooner Than You Think?

by metatron in

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there have been a number of developments over the past few months and they paint an interesting picture.. witnesses can keep dragging themselves to meetings ad infinitum however, the future of the watchtower itself is another story.

the evidence of continuing cash flow problems is now overwhelming.

if you talk to well placed witnesses, most won't deny it but simply blame it on the publishers financial problems.. they have cut off loans to congregations many of whom genuinely need new kingdom halls.

bobld

Well maybe after the D.C.,they kept saying the end is near,very near, in fact, so near that you could smell it.They are very rich in assets,but have a cash flow problem.First it was the KHAA,than TOAA (Travelling overseer assist arrangement).I understand they want $4.25 from every publisher in Canada.That payment MUST be made ,even if some can't,than the congregation will.That is, to the help the C.O.(T.O.)with travelling and dental expenses.

In the past the congregations paid for the C.O. expenses,ie gas/meals.The way I figure,this is for dental only, which amounts to over $6,000 per C.O. per year to me that is high.I forgot it's to help their cash flow problem.

Also in the near future.mark my words they will use the Devil's device(internet) to get the info out to the R&F.One last thing,I believe there is a powerful group of men behind the scenes.They are using the so called GB, as puppets and when the time comes they will take over all the assets.

Bob

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-28-09 WT Study (GREATER MOSES)

by blondie in

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the bible that were never in the bible.

inspired christian greek scriptures in various places.

"the christ"?.

bobld

Thanks Blondie:

Q12 So many hours, so little .How many JW really put in an effort to convert people.They don't want to start studies,they aren't interested in people.It's a joke.If they put the same effort in working their own business they would be worse the GM.

Q15.ahahahah "Israel of God is now God's special property" You got to be kidding me.I don't think God's archenemy would pay two cents for them.

Bob

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Residents building 50,000-square-foot Jehovah's Witnesses assembly hall

by Gayle in

http://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/robot-99398-vinci-espinoza.html.

residents building 50,000-square-foot jehovah's witnesses assembly hallcomments 2| recommend 1. june 27, 2009 - 9:09 pmby gabriel saldana, valley morning star video goes here la feria - contractors, construction machinery, power generators and rv trailers are strewn about a 30-acre construction site on south parker road.. the workers there are not paid and the land on which they are building was donated like much of the heavy machinery they use.

the rest of the machinery is rented with donated money.. everyone at the construction site of the 2,500-seat jehovah's witnesses assembly hall is a volunteer.

bobld

So 157 congregations will travel hundreds of miles (good for the environment)spend hundreds of dollars on hotels,meals,plus donate 15 dollars per day per publisher for the use of the facility.Oh.yeah another way to scam and fleece the sheep.Not to mention the kick backs from rented hotel rooms(we know the scam).2000 X 15=$30,000 per day x40 days=$1,200,000 in 5 years you recovered all the free donated money.Who are you looking out for.

Bob

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What are the Major Issues with Jehovah's Witnesses?

by AllTimeJeff in

it's safe to say that in most instances, it appears that the catalyst for the final move away from jw's, the real start of a road toward a jw exit, is something that affected you personally, whether that was you or a loved one/family member.

we hit our personal bs level, can't take it anymore,.

then we start to examine the flaws of jw dogma.. i would suggest that most do not start a jw exit because they examine the dogma on a personal study project and find out that something isn't right.

bobld

Most R&F JW are good people.However,they put a false hope in the information from their leaders,sometimes referred to as:the slave,the fds,god's org, when in fact it's only the GB that provides the info.

Take this weeks Sundays' WT study article,which I believe describes the leaders of this organization to a T.Para 1"Those who allow themselves to be influenced by such ones end up being "tossed about as by waves and carried hither and thither by every wind of teaching" Eph.4:14 AS an example, the many changes the GB made in the last few years trying to define the generation.There are many,many,many changes they made.In fact they closed down a website because the person used their own publications to point out all the changes.I don't know why the R&F fail to see the faulty reasoning of the GB,only if the read it with an open mind.

Bob

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Answers to Bible Questions from the DC recordings provided by AuntBee

by insearchoftruth in

i listened to this recording and wanted to provide a summary of what i have heard......in essence the end is here, keep on the watch, how can we tell the end is here, we tell you so, so keep on the watch....what about those who had incorrect expectations, well they were awake and watching, but mistook some of the signs, but the end is still soooo near.. .

the speakers pace is sooooo slow, even on the fast speed of playback, it seems to me to be slow.

he starts with an explanation on how they have a wealth of information available to them, and most of the questions they are answering come from the theocratic library, but one must be willing to do the research (i guess only amongst somewhat current publications, and of course only use the watchtowers information).. .

bobld

Q1---in part they say "mistakes by witnesses-not the organization" Please explain,the generation that saw 1914 will NOT pass away before theend.The GB of the WBTS ie (organization) said it in their publications and not mistakes by some witnesses.You are not being truthful.God hate six things,yes seven PR 6:16,17 ONE OF THEM BEING A FALSE TONGUE.

Bob

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I just heard of more organizational changes...........

by awildflower in

so a good friend of mine e-maild me today with this information.

aparently brother hurd says as of 2010 all the magazine printing and distribution will be moved to canada.

the only printing the us will do is the books.

bobld

Words of wisdom from Snakes.You should go on a world wide tour of all the congregations of J.W. and inform them of the latest news at HQ.Inform the locals of the real world of the WBTS / GB for what they are.

Bob

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Calling Young Brothers to Bethel while Kicking Out the Loyal Ones

by Ultimate Reality in

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this week marks the news of two "young" brothers i know being accepted to brooklyn bethel.. this pattern continues to demonstrate the current "human resources" policy of the current gb.

while telling those that have spent the best years of their life, "we need you in the field", they continue to bring in the healthy, unsuspecting young brothers so they can be used up with nothing to show for it late in life.. at last year's d.c. there was an interview with a brother that had been "sent back to the field" some 4 months prior to the convention.

what was so sad, is that the brother was clearly alone, and perhaps scared, in his new assignment in a remote rural area with a congregation of 40. he had been accepted to bethel after high school, never pioneered, and had been at bethel for 30 years!

bobld

You hit the nail right on the head.Example,Watchtower April 15,2009 page 20-22."Can You Serve Where the Need for Kingdom Publishers Is Greater?".They go on and say that there is a great need for Kingdom publishers who could preach to the English-speaking population in Mexico.So Ralph and Pam with their sons,then aged 8 and 12,accepted the invitation.They (GB) go on to explain how many SIMPLIFIED their life to expand their ministry in Mexico.

Why,because their are an extimated one million citizens of the USA living in Mexico.Ralph explains:We prayed for more workers.We always kept an extra bedroom in our home available for brothers and sisters who came to our area to 'spy out the land,' so to speak.So they have this vast territory and pray for more workers.Well guess WHAT "Both our sons began pioneering with us,AND they are now serving where the need is greater but not in Mexico, they are serving at Bethal in the United States.

Why to replace that Brother that gave that experience at last years D.C. and other older ones like him.Yes GB/WBTS we all know oyur dirty tricks and how you treat elderly people with contempt.Sorry for the long post.

bob