Posts by sparrow

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Best place in the world to be born?

by mtsgrad in

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longevityhealthfamily/community valueshealthcarepoliitcal stabilitywealtheducationafter much thinking i have decided bhutan is the best place in the world to be born.

it is the only country in the world with a policy for the populations happiness.. in the uk depending on your city your average life expectancy can differ by eight years.

scary!.

sparrow

Australia

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Did The Watchtower Society Give You Your Personality?

by The wanderer in

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did the watchtower society give you your personality?a good friend of mine on the discussion board had this conversation .

with me a couple of times.

after spending decades in the organization, .

sparrow

firstly I have to say - you guys crack me up with the expressions - witless, jehobah, da troof.

Secondly I say no to this - I was growed up as a "witless" but as I said in another post I am the same person as I was when I was a witness. Not because I grew up with it but because that is the person I am. My father - still a witness - agrees and is why still has dinner with me even though I am DF'd. What backs this up is my new family (in-laws) think I'm the best thing since sliced bread. They are not and never have been witnesses but they base this on me and my personality.

I have thought about this before - if there is no such thing as everlasting life and what I do now has no meaning in the big picture - what would I do? Steal from people to get what I want, tread on people to get to the top, do whatever is needed become a millionare. Fact is I couldn't...

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Would you ever......

by thepackage in

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is there anything that could happen in your life that would convince you to return to the wts?????

?.

sparrow

And I'd also need 3 forms of ID for him to prove that he was God.

That was funny...

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What jobs have you done as. . .

by Lady Lee in

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ok we all have stories of "window-cleaners" but some of us had other kinds of work - that you got payed for (slave labor excepted).

so what kinds of things have you done?

what did you enjoy?

sparrow

1) Rooftiled for 8 years - most witness guys in my area took this up as there were quite a few tilers. Being that my father was one of the first it was a no brainer.

2) Did a stint of window cleaning

3) Did a 10 months course in IT and now am IT manager/developer for Telco. Good job but I miss the sun

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JW Private Investigator Inc

by sparrow in

there has been a few posts regarding happy marriages and the 2 witness rule which reminded me of an experience you might find funny.

i'd like to know if anyone else has done anything like this.... there was a married couple with 3 kids in our cong.

he was an ms but a nasty piece of work.

sparrow

There has been a few posts regarding happy marriages and the 2 witness rule which reminded me of an experience you might find funny. I'd like to know if anyone else has done anything like this...

There was a married couple with 3 kids in our cong. He was an MS but a nasty piece of work. Verbally abused her and the kids, heavily into hardcore porn and towards the end physically abused her (and had the worst breath). She was the nicest person and the kids were awesome. However the elders always stuck up for him and never believed her. She spent years with this until she finally got the courage to leave.

Anyway, he moved interstate (Queensland) and "supposedly" moved in with another woman although never admitted it when asked. The 2 witness rule applied and the elders still would stand up for him. This went on for years. He would not allow her a scriptural divorce and wanted control over her life. The children had to spend some holidays with him but the elders would not accept what the kids said as they were too young and he denied it.

My father and another ex-elder decided to do something. (Our families were pretty close) I had a trip to Queensland so they organised me to go earlier, got me a video camera, hired a blue van with curtains and I got the address and a mudmap off the kids of where he was living with this "other woman". Plan was simple - video them going into the apartment, stay the night in the van and film them in the morning.

He knew me (I had even worked on the mag counter with him) so I had to be careful. You can imagine me in suburbia, sitting in the back of a van, video camera through the curtains, freaking out thinking one of the neighbours was going to knock on the van. I first filmed him leaving to get groceries. He drove past the van and looked at it. I then filmed them come back and go in together. I put a hat on, sunglasses and quickly walked through the complex trying to film (with commentary) where they had gone in, tried to film the number plate, still freaking out he was going to see me.

In the morning she came out early and took off in her car before I go the camera started - I missed it on film but saw it. He left later.

The funny bit - I went to Mcdonalds for breakfast as I was damn tired spending the night in a van. As I was eating you wouldn't believe who walked in - He did! He saw me, got his breakfast and ate with me. I had to make up an excuse that I just drove up to visit my mother while the big blue van was in the carpark that was sitting out the front of his place for the past 18 hours.

The not so funny bit - My video work was crap. I hardly got any evidence to prove he was living their with her and the elders still would not give her grounds for a scriptual divorce even with my "signed" testimony. On top of this I had breakfast with the enemy.

The moral - don't ever hire me as a PI - I suck. There is a happy ending though - she left the org including the kids, she is happily married and we still piss ourselves laughing about my pathetic attempt to free her from slavery...

-sparrow

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Guilt over a happy marriage

by Frequent_Fader_Miles in

long before i began my fade, there was a certain "sister" in the congo who married a non-jw man.

she was very happily married despite of all the forecasts of "doom and gloom" among the "friends".

how sad it was to hear her make the following comment in conversation - "sometimes i feel badly about marrying an unbeliever, since other sisters may look at me and follow my example.

sparrow

The only place I could find a woman that wasn't crazy was in the world Found her, married her and couldn't be happier.

My parents stayed together for years because of the truth - it sucks growing up in a family where the parents don't get along. I believe any witnesses married and are not happy are living a lie...

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Would you ever......

by thepackage in

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is there anything that could happen in your life that would convince you to return to the wts?????

?.

sparrow

yes nvrgnbk - I can see it now. Convert the magazine counter to a bar. install a few 50 inch plasma and have Sunday afternoon meetings. I might even reach out for more priviledges then...

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Voluntarily Confessing & Then Getting Reproved or Disfellowshipped

by minimus in

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do you realize how many contrite witnesses went to the elders to make things right with god and wound up getting disfellowshipped or privately or publicly reproved?

a lot.. did you or anyone that you knew ever get "disciplined" unfairly?

many times, no one would ever know about anything unless it was voluntarily brought up.

sparrow

I confessed - no one knew about and she didn't even want to tell them (she wanted to get a hotel room the next day and keep at it! - shoulda taken her up on the offer damn it) Anyway I was sorry - was a mess about it - but because I had a strike against my name in a previous cong they DF'd me. I had to go through the pain and then the humiliation of going through what happened in detail with 3 men for nothing.

Glad they did though otherwise I am sure I'd still be there...

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Getting Drunk at the ASSembly tomorrow! queue evil smile

by Mincan in

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i got the plans in the works!

i've got a 26er and a half of vodka mixed with fruit punch (no smell on breath or when mixed :d) in my suitcase!!!!

lol!

sparrow

that's me in Octoberfest munich last year - made it through six of them until they disagreed with the bratwurst and sauerkraut. . How is Pennsylvania by the way? Had some good times in downtown Latrobe a few years ago...

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Getting Drunk at the ASSembly tomorrow! queue evil smile

by Mincan in

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i got the plans in the works!

i've got a 26er and a half of vodka mixed with fruit punch (no smell on breath or when mixed :d) in my suitcase!!!!

lol!

sparrow

can't imagine wanted to go either - I can think of better places to drink like a beer garden with some live music at least. But hey - have fun - get on it