Posts by hybridous

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REINSTATED AND STILL SHUNNED!

by new boy in

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i was at a wedding last summer were i met an old friend.

he had been reinstated for 6 months, he was dfed for 4 years.. he had been an elder for 10 years before that, he had commited adultery with another "brothers" wife.

i asked him how it was going.

hybridous

My old man is still informally shunned by a certain group of JWs.

What happened was, he left us when I was a kid. He left mom, brother, sister, and I, and the witnesses....he DA's himself. He did whatever he did...his pathetic excuse for a conscience bothered him at some point, so he returned to the cult. He married another woman, a JW (his 3rd. marriage), and now he's in 'good standing' (reinstated)with another congregation across town, but...

There's still this certain group of witnesses, mostly from 'our' original congregation who still view my dad as the dirtbag he is, and will not associate with him DESPITE the official-seal-of-approval from the WTS. It amuses me, because he's a worse asshole now than before he left...perhaps he believes that if the WTS says he's ok...then he really must be ok. Whatever....he'll never convince that group from our congregation.

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This is a really good one....

by Inquiry in

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hey all..... i recently heard the funniest prank..... a neighbour of mine came over, with a beer i might add.... nice fellow... and during conversation found out that i used to be a witness... he was asking me questions and then he got this funny smirk on his face... i thought it was something i said, so i asked him what i did.... he started laughing and said he was just remembering what he and a friend did about three years ago around christmas time..... i had been out of the borg for over a year at that point.... apparently, these two pranksters... of course whilst drinking deeply of the barley and hops laden waters of life.... went to a canadian tire, bought $75 worth of christmas lights (about $5 usd...lol) and in the wee hours of a sunday morning... put them up around my old kh and lit them up for all to see when they came in for the 10 am meeting..... i asked around and apparently it's true!

laugh!

i thought i'd die!!!!!

hybridous

Consider it done, this December!!

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I was part of a huge top-secret experiment

by Quotes in

just had a flashback i thought i would share.. i distinctly remember, when i was only about 8 or 10 years old, suddenly having what one might call an epiphany.. i thought that my entire life and existence was part of some huge social science experiment (of course i didn't use this language when i was 10 years old, but am simply trying to use the correct words to describe my childish feelings).. i felt that my parents weren't really my parents, but were part of the stimulii to provoke a reaction from me; a reaction which was intensely studied by unseen scientists who were watching me, 24/7.

i speculated about whether or not my school friends were "in on it" of if that was "real world" and only my home life was part of the study.. here's the kicker.

i thought that the whole jw religion was the centerpiece of the experiment.

hybridous

Quotes,

Damn, you're creeping me out! I entertained the same line of thinking as a kid, but I recall it happening to me as an early teenager.

Thankfully, those doubts kept me from getting dunked as a dub, while my friends at the hall were doing the deed. The pressure was quite intense during those years, I don't know how I held out.

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The future for the WT...

by TheApostleAK in

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sociologically speaking as a religion, the jw's are at a threshold of continued cultishness and obscurity, or re-oriontation to a more 'mainline' christian religion with its own unique distinctiveness.

i say the wt will take the middle ground....

hybridous

Care to expostulate?

What exactly is the 'middle ground'? I'm having a tough time imagining one.

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Field Service Physical Humiliation

by ashitaka in

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what physical humiliation did you suffer in field service?.

i froze my little hands off in the winter and sweated until i got headaches in the summer....got yelled at if i complained about it....even if i was so hot or cold that i got sick afterwards.. at times it was like calculated torture.. you?

hybridous

As a kid, I was forced to go knocking on doors around the corner from my house. Tough enough, but this was in the dead of a long, cold winter.

My service partner, and I (not yet even teenagers), went to a certain house on a particularly cold and nasty Saturday morning. Before we could finish the presentation (aka - sales pitch), the woman at the door shook her head in disbelief...

'I can't believe they send you kids out on days like this.'

Without missing a beat, my young partner replies...

'They're not sending us - this is OUR CHOICE!'

Hmmm, maybe that was his choice. It certainly wasn't mine, at least not on that brutal day. Therefore, there was no way it was OUR choice...

And that's how we were taught to lie for God. Just like good JW children should.

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WT U-Turn on "Great Crowd" (May 1, 20...

by stevieb1 in

the following is taken from questions from readers p.31 of the my 1, 2002 watchtower.

it is the wt response to the question: "when john saw the "great crowd" rendering sacred service in jehovah's temple, in which part of the temple were they doing this?".

quote.

hybridous

Hmmm, if the WTS is getting ready to amend this particular part of the 'truth', then they may go '2-for-1', so-to-speak.

What I mean is, if they're gonna say that the members of the great crowd may actually entertain a hope for heaven, they may change the official understanding of 144,000 from a literal number to a figurative one.

This could help them to deal with the (claiming to be) annointed 'excess' that exists. Without just refuting them, the WTS will allow for their heavenly hope and keep them 2nd. class. That way, the R&F can avoid the inevitable discomfort when some 20 year old looney-toon starts telling everyone at the KH he/she's a special one. The R&F can pretend to buy the crazy's claim, since now WT theology allows for an unknown number of annointed.

I really could imagine this happening, it seems like just another innocent 'change of understanding' which the R&F would swallow without too much trouble, while they ignore the huge implications of such a chamge.

Sounds crazy, yes? No? What do you think?

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Adam Resurrected?

by joelbear in

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friday says adam will be resurrected?

i thought he was the cause of all the trouble the world is in?.

i thought the ultimate test was for a perfect man to decide whether or not they would submit to god's rule?.

hybridous

Ya, I seem to remember being told that Adam and Eve would NOT be resurrected, since as perfect people, their sin was totally their choice - no imperfections to blame it on.

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watch what you ask about!

by zev in

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i posted this in another thread.... i wanted to give it its due concideration..... i wish to share a small tid-bit of something that came to "light" last week.

it shows how underhanded and sneeky the little trolls are, and they even know they are.. an issue came up recently in a watchtower over a certain number of years that was mentioned in a w.t.

the actual years in the bible was different.

hybridous

Ha, so much for 'making sure of all things'.

By now, many of the elders are quite aware of the 'soft-spots' in JW theology. The info is all over the net, what can they do? They have no defence for most of their lies, so their best bet is to attack the person posing the questions...

You come across a JW lie or falsehood (a matter of perspective, I guess), and you are suspected of a mind-crime. What does the average JW learn? Shut the hell up. You said it, 'watch what you ask about'.

The brainwashing continues. For some. How long can the average JW reconcile worshiping Jehovah (God of Truth) in a cult of ignored lies?

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Man Has a Soul. What do You Believe Now?

by Treborr Jones in

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i was just wondering if the ex-jw's here now believe you have a soul, or do you still hold on to the borgs claims of man/woman not having a soul.

i for one know we do.

hybridous

Skimmer, that sounds like a combination of JW and traditional Christian doctrine.

The questions now raised are:

1. Where and what were my soul before I had this body? Did I exist?

2. Does your premise hold for all creatures on this planet? From apes, dogs and cats, down to paramecium and bacteriophages and such...if not, where's the cut-off point?

Not playing around with you, but these are real questions that I ask.

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Man Has a Soul. What do You Believe Now?

by Treborr Jones in

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i was just wondering if the ex-jw's here now believe you have a soul, or do you still hold on to the borgs claims of man/woman not having a soul.

i for one know we do.

hybridous

I always thought that this particular JW teaching had some credibility. I always defined a soul as a 'piece' of life, as a human or animal. And when a human or animal dies, that particular 'piece' of life is extinguished.

Over the years though, I've taken that premise to its logical conclusion and come up on some tough questions. If a man or a dog is a soul (a 'piece' of life, that is), what about single celled organisms? And if single celled organisms are souls, what about the millions and millions of cells that make up a more complex organism, like a human or a dog? Do every one of my body cells have a soul, or are they a soul? And what about the person called Hybridous? Is my soul a conglomerate of all those millions of souls of my cells? There's really no end to the questions.

May I ask how you know that I have a soul?