Congrats on the relationship! Hopefully it works out good. Thanks for the response and the info. It is a shame the languages of the bible can not be perfectly understood in today's English. I think that is why it is important not to base belief on one scripture, but the message as a whole. I look forward to hearing your research and will some of my own. Obviously this verse was not stressed by my JW training. LOL!
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The Case for Unitarianism
by UnDisfellowshipped in* the bible teaches that there is only one true god, only one person who is almighty god, and this one person is the father.
(see john 17:3; john 5:37, 5:44; john 8:54; isaiah 63:15-16; malachi 1:6; 1st corinthians 8:6; ephesians 4:6).
(john 5:19-20; 5:30; 8:28; 12:49).
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How about a new happy thread...the best thing that happened to you this month!
by restrangled inthe best thing for me..... my son stopped over and he realized he needs to buy a home....so we quickly did a run on the internet in our neighborhood and he found a jewel.. whether he gets it or not....it was fun for both my husband and myself to go see, help him ask questions and give him the ok.. it's probably just a dream, but reminded us of our younger days.. how was your day?
something happy please!!!!
we have enough horrible negatives going on right now..
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I got re-hired by my company (previously with for 10 years). Just found out today I'll be running my department agiain. Almost a year on unemployment - not fun. Getting hied - Awesome.
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You Have No Witness "Friends"
by metatron ini apologize for this point, as if beating it to death, but folks, you don't have any witness friends!
there is no such thing.. does that sound extreme?
too radical?
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Bluecanary - I think I misspoke a little bit - there are certainly very intelligent JWs. Mind control can affect anyone. I do know that that they TARGET those who are less educated and poor in this "system". Many times I heard complaints about working the "wealthy neighborhoods" because the educated people there would dismiss the JWs at their door. They wanted to work the poorer or low middle class neighborhoods - those people didn't know any better and accept the "mind control" techniques more readily.
The other factor is mental problems. You can be very intelligent and have depression, self-esteem, mommy issues, etc ..... These are the people cults prey on the most.
My friends - that is people I feel are true and genuine in the ORG - are people who perhaps are not educated, not able to think on big complicated matters for themselves. I love and pity people in that situation and still consider them friends even if they are confused.
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You Have No Witness "Friends"
by metatron ini apologize for this point, as if beating it to death, but folks, you don't have any witness friends!
there is no such thing.. does that sound extreme?
too radical?
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I agree with the viewpoint of the ORG as a whole, however there are a few who genuinely believe that Jehovah God almighty sovereign of the universe speaks to them thru 12 guys in NY. And they get really confused when their natural "friendship" conflicts with what they're told. Because JWs often prey on the uneducated and and "less intelligent" (sorry for the truth here) they don't have the capacity to truly "think" for themselves. These people can be true friends, but Jehovah has told them to act a certain way and so they will inspite of their true feelings for friends. Of the 20 or so "friends" I had 2 or 3 are in this category.
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If The Bible Is The Word Of God...
by XJW4EVR inmany here have abandoned the bible as "the word of god" and there are numerous reasons for said abandonment.
however what i am interested in finding out is if the bible is the word of god, then what would you expect to find?.
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I hate that we can't have a thread on the Bible being the word of God without other nonsense getting in the way! For those who have questions about the Bible being God's word it doesn't make any difference what it says about the Trinity the nature of Christ or anything else - Don't we have enough Trinity topics out there?
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ROMANS 8:18-25 PROVES 2 CLASS WT TEACHING.. SAYS THE WIFE
by whereami incan someone help me here?.
maybe narkissos or laolaia can help?.
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JWs don't teach this. I could find nothing about this scripture applying to an earthly hope. Jesus is the only one who taught "the meek would inherit the earth" all NT writers noy quoting Jesus give the heavenly hope as the ONLY hope for christians. I personally think little of the NT claim to inspiration, but that is a discussion JWs are not capable of having - generally speaking.
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One of many problems with evolution
by jaguarbass infrozen aircraft shock .
i'm still in shock!
are these aircraft found buried in ice, more than 3,000 years old -- or what?.
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Are you trying to say Science doesn't always date things right? Duh. Are you trying to say that Ice rings disprove evolution in some way? Evolution has nothing to do with flood theories sorry unrelated topics.
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Wars, earthquakes and famines are not signs of the end
by Doug Mason inin the late 1960s and early 1970s, i wrote my study, 1914 and all that.
in it, i stated that at matthew 24 jesus warned his followers against seeing wars, earthquakes and famines as being signs.
i have not wavered from that position, which i have given in my posts here at times.. .
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The whole Point of Jesus' parables in Matt 24 are YOU don't know when I'm coming. One will be taken one left behind - Keep on the watch - Faithful slave - Evil slave - follish vigins - discreet virgins - slave w/5 talents, 2 talents, 1 talent. sheep and goats. ALL THE SAME ILLUSTRATION! You personally need to be a faithful, sheeplike, discreet, slave that is keeping on the watch for your saviour, because YOU have no idea when he is coming.
Spike - I've looked at appendix 1D - the Greek scriptures NEVER use God's name YHWH. It is added to fit the interpreter's doctrine no other reason.
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If The Bible Is The Word Of God...
by XJW4EVR inmany here have abandoned the bible as "the word of god" and there are numerous reasons for said abandonment.
however what i am interested in finding out is if the bible is the word of god, then what would you expect to find?.
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For me a real problem with the Bible is the idea of "the inerrant word of God" that fundamentalists(like JWs) have. No where do the books in the bible claim that they are inspired (except = The "word of Jehovah" that prophets write and 2 Tim 3:16). If there is a God and he revealed himself to Moses in that burning bush - I believe that inspiration should only be claimed for the parts that claim inspiration. (and then judged) The creation account, flood account, most of the "history" in the bible DO NOT CLAIM inspiration. They are the understanding that people had at that time and as such are valuable.
The God of this universe is an experimenter. Look at the stars. There are 2 Galaxies colliding right now. God doesn't seem to care. Look at the proof of evolution in the world around us. Pretty random based on natural phenomenon. The idea that He is the Author of a book is silly. He might intervene once to say "Hey don't murder,steal, lie ... I don't like it." Then we humans take those simple things and build ridiculous religions around them. Then Jesus says "Love your neighbor" he gets crucified and we have eons of war, torture, and martyrs. When are we gonna learn?
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The Bible
by desib77 ini am meeting a coworker tonight at a coffee shop for a "bible study".
it started out that she was interested in my past and my current questions / viewpoints and we were just going to visit.
now she is referring to it as a "bible study" which implies that she thinks i need to be taught.
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Atomahawk - OK Don't forget 25 million Jews and 5 million Bahai faith. That is ....... still like .55 ... Round up to 2/3?