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  The Little Aggravations: Things I Don't Miss

  by simon17 in

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  2. friends

  there are some major problems with the jws, doctrinally, socially, and organizationally.

  from shunning to crazy elder bodies to guilt trips, there are many things that were really bad.

  this thread is devoted to the small, insignificant things that just really really irked you.

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  Read S. Hassan's Book: Do JW's really fit the cult mold?

  by simon17 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  first time i got a chance to read his book, "combatting cult mind control" and was interested to see if jw's fell into the cult mold.

  my opinion after carefully reading and having left the witnesses after almost 30 years is... no, they don't.

  however, i would add that they wish they were but are simply too big and unwieldy to really pull it off.

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  They're getting soft...

  by simon17 in

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  2. friends

  so i had my second random jw visit since i left.

  the last time i was sick and couldn't really talk back but i was pleasant enough.

  i took the magazines, but they never returned.. attempt #2: a father with his poor miserable looking son.

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  I just became a Return Visit (!)

  by simon17 in

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  2. friends

  been sick all week and for the first time i had jw's visit me since i left (actually the second time, but the first time it was just two people who asked "are you turkish" and left when i said no lol.

  very strange).

  anyway, since i had no voice and little strength i just let them go through their presentation with a smile, took the mags, and that was it.

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  Eve: Failing the Single Test She Had

  by simon17 in

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  2. beliefs

  its amazing how things seemed logical when you heard them.

  consider the case of eve.

  we always here how truly terrible a sin (most likely the unforgivable sin) because she was perfect and given one command.

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  An argument against atheism: It's hopeless

  by simon17 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i hear this critique against atheism a lot.

  that its simply a hopeless way to live one's life.

  believers give this argument, not passionately, but almost desicively, as if clearly a outlook they don't want for life is a wrong outlook.. is there anything you can do to reason with such ones?

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  To the theists: Your reaction if God hypothetically changed the standards of right and wrong

  by simon17 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have more to say on this and its implications, but i'll keep this short to get some initial discussion.

  to those that believe in god, suppose he were to hypothetically change various standards of right and wrong, suppose with the new scrolls to be opened.

  things such as rape, theft and immorality are now perfectly fine and acceptable.

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  "Who else are we to go away to?"

  by simon17 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  to the intellectually honest witness, it seems like it often comes down to this principle.

  "fine, if the witnesses aren't the truth, then show me the better answer and i'll consider it.

  " and how do you deal with that?

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  Dawkins and Father George Coyne

  by simon17 in

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  2. friends

  i enjoy listening to the creation-v-evolution or is-there-a-god debates between believers and non-believers.

  i find it very interesting in my exploratory stage in leaving the wt brain control.

  so in this sense, i found it very fascinating and refreshing to listen to dawksin with father george coyne.

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  And JW stuff made you want to scream: Pope's new book

  by simon17 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this article is kinda ridiculous with all the things the pope is saying, trying to save face like a bad politician.

  how does any of these answers make sense when you think of someone as god's spokesman.

  it almost made the gb seem a little less ridiculous for a moment:.

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