i finally saw that november 15th wt article on prayer that everyone has been talking about - the people in the photos look as stiff as corpses!.
people will be called in the back room for inadvertantly making contact with their spouse during prayer.. i think i will adopt the following stance during prayer now:.
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I finally saw that November 15th WT article on prayer that everyone has been talking about - the people in the photos look as stiff as corpses!
People will be called in the back room for inadvertantly making contact with their spouse during prayer.
I think I will adopt the following stance during prayer now:
...it just isn't big enough!.
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LOL - OTWO, I was thinking the same thing before I even opened this thread!
How about the 37 different funds and contribution boxes at the KH?
This fund, that fund, the poor people dont even know which box to put the money in, so they put it in ALL of them!!
I used to HATE doing the accounts because it was so DAMN confusing!
Worldwide Work - Pedophilia Lawsuit Fund
Local Congregation Fund - Give More Money to the Pedophilia Fund
Kingdom Hall Building Fund - Build more places to raise money for the Pedophilia Fund
Next Contribution Box Idea - "Worldwide Pedophilia Lawsuit Settlement Fund"
religious groups regularly refer to their belief system as truth.
religious truth is generally a mix of fact and faith.
for some groups, truth extends beyond faith and into the realm of delusion.
Paul,
Your information and opinions are so appreciated!!
I love your web site and use it frequently. You have saved me countless hours of research and I believe the information is put together so well. When I get asked by my family why I feel the way I do, I just want to give them the web address to jwfacts.com.
This point is HUGE for me:
The Watchtower claims its appointment of elders is guided by holy spirit. Yet, regularly the men appointed are engaged in practices forbidden by the Watchtower Society.
This was the first step for me in resigning as an elder and questioning the whole thing. When I saw the DEPLORABLE behavior by a great number of elders, I was so disgusted. Then, the organization continually browbeats the flock to follow them and to never question them- "they are spirit-appionted men" or "these are the stars in Christ's hand". I started to wonder - is God's holy spirit that far off that it appointed THIS piece of garbage as an elder????" Are Christ's standards so low that he is holding this A-Hole as one of the stars in his hand? When I had a huge problem over the way something was handled by the elders, I wrote the Society. What did they say? Basically, not to question spirit-appointed men and to GO TALK TO THE ELDERS!!
It was a farce, and I knew it. Now, people like you are helping me to dig further into all of the other BS I have been fed by this unloving, uncaring, organization. THANKS!
i don't know if this one was posted, but i thought you might want to see what kind of garbage they tell the young ones.. stop missing meetings, stop setting college and career goals.
run for jehovah:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz8t6rkp5mq&feature=player_embedded#.
God, I want to gouge my eyes out after watching that crap.
Brother Fisek's accent reminds me of a movie character:
'waiting for the real life'.
they exploit the biblical text to mean in essence that jw's 'put off' normal human life until the new world.. i never thought of the damage that does until i began to review my life history.
i have discovered that i am 35 years behind.
'Waiting for the REAL LIFE'
The WT parallels The Matrix so much!!!
That is such a disturbing and destructive mentality.
Someone posted assembly notes that mentioned a talk that said something to the effect "How can you even possibly enjoy this life - this isnt the real life."
I am so tired of that mentality - I enjoy my gift of life everyday!!! I am going to live the HELL out of this life, and I am not going to look back on the time I spent peddling WT's with an underlying sense of guilt and fear and regret. The past is the past, and its time to move on. I am going to read books, study things I held off on because it was "worldly", enjoy the ride and enjoy THIS REAL LIFE
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i started a topic like this about 4 years ago but, as you'd expect, most of the images no longer show so here we go again .
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having explained/pointed out the doctrinal flip flops to some jw's i know i was astonished to find that they just brushed it all aside, on one occasion they seemed to just tune me out and quit listening.
the gb really do have them whipped, it makes me wonder what it would take for them to sit up and realise what a insane religon they are in?!
and in the meantime how much can the gb get away with because of the blind faith of their followers?
There are a lot of total die-hards who hang on every word like its from God's mouth.
I believe there are many who would go the route of Jim Jones' followers and "drink the kool aid" if the GB said to.
Why would so many people I know have lasted through 1975 and STILL remained?
I know of a few old men who are still window washers who had lost it all due to those boneheads in 75 and still stayed totally "faithful"
I agree with OTWO - they could go after the internet big time. It has to be the biggest fear - people who get disillusioned have a wealth of knowledge on the internet that is so damning to the WTBTS...............
Other things they could "ban" or strongly suggest against:
1) Sports - they already have boxing, skydiving, etc....why not add more? They could point out the "violence" and "win at all costs" mentality, the "patriotism" of the World Cup and Olympics, etc......
2) Movies - They already have the unwritten "R" rated rule for the USA, why not tighten that up?
Its all about control - how far do they want to push the envelope?
"the world is full of bibles, which book contains the commandments of god.
why, then, do the people not know which way to go?
because they do not also have the teaching or law of the mother, which is light.
They put themselves above God and Christ.
I told my wife recently "When proceedure, protocol, and politics replace love, mercy, and justice then I am forced to examine why I am doing this. I always told myself if the organization put itself about Jah and JC, then I didnt want to be a part of it."
(Of course the organization has done this all along, i just finally figured it out and saw it clearly)
i went to the local library last night with my wife.
i am trying to follow the advice here and be very discreet with my fade.
as she browsed over to the fiction section, i ran over to the religious section.. i am in the middle of reading crisis of conscience on pdf right now, and sure enough our local library has "in search of christian freedom" in the catalog.
I went to the local library last night with my wife.
I am trying to follow the advice here and be very discreet with my fade. As she browsed over to the Fiction section, I ran over to the religious section.
I am in the middle of reading Crisis of Conscience on PDF right now, and sure enough our local library has "In Search of Christian Freedom" in the catalog. I read about 5 minutes worth and now I CANT WAIT to read it. As my wife started to venture my way, I bolted back to the history section and found a book on Assyrian History - Yep, there it was 587 BCE....didnt dare bring that up!
COC is wonderful in itself, its nice showing what a Soviet-style Cult-Of-Personality farce the organization is, but it looks like Ray really takes the gloves off in "In Search Of" and hammers them about the BS doctrines and the dogmatic stance of Big Brother.
I was not yet 10 years old, but I vividly remember the events of 1980 and ALWAYS had questions about them, even at that young age. I might have been a young kid, but I know a witch hunt when i see one!
Ray is answering them one by one
recently there was a thread about the evils of "social networking" for witnesses.
facebook, my space and other similar sites are "worldly" and to be avoided.. before you know, nearly everything will be considered unacceptable for a christian witness of jehovah.
let's have fun and go to extremes...what else will be a no-no?.
It is well known that Gerrit Losch hates sports like American Football.
I told the story on here previously of an elders school I went to where Brother OASCH (fitting that his name rhymes with the Austrian slang for ASS) went OFF on sports in general, particularly Football. You would have thought you were the dirtiest piece of trash on the earth for watching american football. We all LAUGHED on the way home and said "If he tries to ban brothers from watching football, you might as well close the KH's in the area." Its funny, people would hang on his every word on the blood issue, sacrificing your life for Big Brother, etc..........but if you take away their sports, they would tell him to go F himself
I found him to be the most self-righteous, pompous GB member I have ever heard speak. Did he train under the Fuehrer???
