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  SOMETHING THAT IRRITATES ME

  by bay64me in

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  ok, so it's maby to be viewed as a minor irritation but annoying all the same.

  i can't help getting peed off when i see tv programmes showing music clips and videos that were out when i was in!.

  it makes me sad to think that i missed out on so much good stuff, when all the while i thought i was keeping myself "unspotted" by not having any part of the world!.

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  Don't worry, TimeLife Music will come out with a series and you can be giddy in your rediscoverd nostaligia!

  Rock on!
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  A Question I've Always Wondered About!

  by patricia in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've often wondered about god's promise to hagar, ishmael"s mother in genesis 16:10 and 17:20 where he promises that he will greatly multiply her descendants making them too numerous to count, and also telling abraham that he would also bless ishmael and "he would certainly produce twelve chieftains, and i will make him become a great nation".

  verse 25 also mentions that ishmael was circumcised which would make him part of the covenant made between jehovah and abraham.

  in genesis 21:13, after telling abraham to drive hagar and ishmael out of his camp as sarah told him to do, god promised abraham that he would make a nation of ishmael too, because he was also abraham's son.

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  Hmm...very interesting, I wish I had some answers, but I have never heard anything about it...not from JW standpoint anyway. BUt intersting post none the less...maybe God just likes to rile people up...loving indeed! Kind of reminds me of two football teams both praying to God that they win, and one of them must be liked by God more because their can only be one winner...

  Edited by - joannadandy on 7 July 2002 19:52:36
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  WTS confirms head covering regulations

  by ozziepost in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as a service by jehovah's "loving" organisation, the wts has issued a list of situations where sisters are to wear a "head covering".

  2. conducting a bible study with baptized son.

  1. conducting a family study where husband is not present.

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  2. Giving oral

  What? You mean you can give oral as long as you wear a head covering?

  Hmm...I may have taken that out of context...

  Yes I must agree this is very much like reading some Pharissee rule book. What about when the moon is full and the sister has just eaten unleaven bread, then is she good, cuz she hasn't taken fremented cakes into her belly? Grrr! It's just so stupid--do they really believe Jehovah gives a rats ass about headcoverings?
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  The wailing wall of the Jews

  by docpalo in

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  2. beliefs

  recently some hassidic jew who stands and rocks like a catatonic shizoprhenic at the wailing wall in jerusalem noticed some water stains up near the top of the wall.

  immeadiately he summised this to be some holy sign of the messiah.

  but the deputy director of public works says that it most likely is a ruptured pipe or drain.

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  They do not worship Yaweh, but instead worship a conglameration of Gods and customs that are man made and Satan based.

  Do you even know how many different types of Jews there are? There about as many factions of Jewish faith as their are of Christianity. If the customs are only from the Talmud and Kaballah how come they still celebrate passover with a vengance and refuse to dine on pork...mmmm pork. The Jewish faith has been around for a long time. Of course they are going to have all sorts of different traditions. You can't base fanatical ravings of a select few to reflect an entire genre of relgion.
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  New rules from WTS to restrict use of internet?

  by Nowfree in

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  2. friends

  i know of a presiding overseer who has recently got rid of the modem and internet connections on his pc.

  the reason given was that he didnt use it enough to make the monthly expense worthwhile.. but i wonder?.

  have there been any local needs items or talks recently about whether it is wise to use the internet?.

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  I remember lots of convention parts about Internet uses, and how chat, and message boards are evil, because my mother would always right it down and double underline it and show it to me...hee hee, those underlines really put the fear of God in me, let me tell you!

  I think the whole internet policy is like the Rock and Roll policies. You can tell people they are a slippery slope and will lead to damnation/bad associations whatever, but ultimately people will do whatever they think they can get away with. It's the nature of the human condition. If that means hiding your Piosion album under your bed, and chatting online to apostates late at night so be it. Frankly I like that they post here, this would be a dull board without them. Plus it will always be fightin material in a good flame war...

  "Hey aren't you not supposed to be here?"

  "I can do what I want"

  "That's not following the Elders loving arangements then is it? By the power of GreySkull I call forth my Aposto-powers--woogey woogey woogey!"
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  Witnesses Not Budging on 1914

  by stevieb1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just attended the sunday of the zealous kingdom proclaimers district convention in manchester, england and during the final talk we had an update on the world situation as it relates to jehovah's witnesses.

  the speaker was peter ellis, a member of the london bethel branch committee.. he stated that many had been waiting for armageddon for some years and some have become disappointed that it hasn't yet arrived, and that newer jw's did not seem to have the same degree of faith as some of the old-timers in the faith, hence this was of serious concern.

  then he said something along the lines of 1914 being set in stone and that the organization was not going to get any new light on this key doctrine, hence we can be sure that armageddon is very near.. interesting don't you think?

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  , and that newer JW's did not seem to have the same degree of faith as some of the old-timers in the faith, hence this was of serious concern.

  Yeah funny how people of my generation don't blindly accept a faith and it's teachings...I can see how that would be a problem.
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  Ned Flanders is a JW!

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  just watching the simpsons where homer gets his thumb cut off.

  there is a scene where ned is reading a story to one of his kids:.

  "so, harry and his friends go straight to hell for practising witchcraft".

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  Personal favorite-when the Flanders lose their house, and Ned thinks God is punishing him and he says:

  "I just don't understand I did everything in the Bible, even the stuff that contradicted the other stuff"

  I really don't know that the Flanders are based on a religion, I think just more overly Religious people in general. I do when Grandpa was dying Marge asked Reverened Lovejoy if he was going to perform the last rights on him, and he says "That's Catholic Marge, you might as well ask me to do a Voodoo dance" And since the Flanders go to church with the Simpons pretty much the only help I can give is that by deduction that they are not catholic.
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  Faithful Slave Remove Some Menu Items

  by proplog2 in

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  as metatron posted 2 months ago the watchtower doesn't mention anything about blood in the new book "worship the only true god".. this is a very important book because it is recommended as a "deeper" study aid for those contemplating baptism.

  it replaces the united in true worship book that was published 19 years ago.. the united in true worship book had 24 chapters.

  the new replacement book has only 21 chapters.

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  The borg is very good about silently dropping things from their doctrine these days, and talking about only what they want to.

  Which explains why AFTER I left I learned about such spiffy things as 1975, and what kind of a kookie guy Russel was. If they explained why those chapters were removed it might cause a skuttlebutt, and we can't have that now can we. It just makes me mad that a society that claims to be so open and honest, and so singular of mind among their flock can cause such havoc by not coming out and just plainly stating what the hell they mean by everything.
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  How Common is this amongst JW's?

  by stevieb1 in

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  2. experiences

  i found this material on a pro-jw newsletter, and i've had this personal experience myself and know many others who have also.

  before i became a jw i experienced a tremendous amount of "love" from the congregation i associated with, but once baptized they leave and move on to the next potential convert.

  as a single person, i was never invited out to gatherings very much and always felt a little left out in the very clique-ish congregation that i attended.

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  There is a theory that was formed by family that you have to spend a good two years in a new congregation before people remember your name and perhaps invite you over. Much Christian love indeed.

  In fact, moving to a hall made it too easy for me to stop going. That is until my parents started going there to. I am pretty convinced if I had been on my own, I could have silently walked away and no one would have recalled what happened to that one girl who used to come to the meetings...
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  Question for JWS: What About Graveside Visitation?

  by Room 215 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's a question for those who keep current with ever-changing jw policy: what is the wtbts's current policy with regard to visitation of gravesides, bringing flowers, etc.

  by widows, widowers, grieving relatives.

  it used to be something of which they took a dim view, and impugned the spirituality of anyone who made a practice of it: ``let the dead bury the dead,'' and all that.

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  Actually a couple who died very tragically in a house fire were recently laid to rest, and it was quite a big deal that everyone in the family came, and a few close friends from the congregation, they said prayers at the gravesite, put flowers in the grave, and selected individuals throw some dirt on top of the boxes. I know my parents go to my sisters grave and tend it with flowers etc. I have honestly never heard it was bad to do things like that...I've always heard from JW's, and there is truth to it in what psychologists say, that going to a gravesite is for the living--not the dead. To cope with the loss, to reflect on that person, just a way to keep in touch with the memories of someone who has passed away.

  Of course, in reading what some JW's have said in regards to grave visitiation, I can't say I am surprised. There are always some who are going to take things that one unheathy step too far, and ruin it for everyone else.

  Edited by - joannadandy on 6 July 2002 14:59:6