i was just thinking after reading some of the posts, and wanted to ask you something..... do any of you feel, and i mean right in the back of your minds, that jws might still have the true faith (truth).
i've been inactive for a few years now and don't attend meetings at the kh, apart from the memorial, and occasional convention.
please don't shout me down, its just that to me, even though i've been out for a while and my reasons for "drifting" away were very painful to me, i don't feel as the majority do here.
I still in my heart believe this is the Truth and always I think will
Obviously this is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Obviously there are those here who have a view very different from your own...I guess I am failing to see the point of this thread...if you believe in your heart it is the "Truth" shouldn't your heart move you to do something about it, instead of posting this on an "apostate" website?
Not trying to bash ya, but I just don't understand your motives.
it`s true,it`s true.i was just at the video shop and the williams girls have their own tennis video game on playstation2....maybe wbts will catch on and make a game about dubs.placing magazines gives you more life,asking questions will get you killed..lol...outlaw
Logging on to a computer sucks away your life line.
The Liar of Apostates is the final level....
oh yes I see loads of possbilities for this game!
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i have been informed on good authority (a dub for 27 years) that you cannot get disfelowshiped for committing a wrongdoing, only for being unrepentant.. can anyone tell me if this is true or not, and if it is not where the misunderstanding comes from?
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Umm...not entirely true.
A group of guys from my hall, all friends of mine growing up, used drugs. First time they just got reproved because they were sorry. A little while later, a year or so, they all got caught again. All of them denied any involvement, except one. He confessed. While there was no hard proof that they had used again (tho it was pretty common knowledge among everyone our age that they were using), the rest got off scott-free. Meanwhile the one who had confessed did so with many tears begging to be forgiven. Since he had already been in trouble with this once before they found that he could not really be repentant...(addiction and abuse are apparently seperate matters) and so he was disfellowshipped.
The moral of the story, and the lesson learned, at least in our hall is, NEVER CONFESS! DENY EVERYTHING!
just a few thoughts..... i noticed that a lady named crystal posted her views.....and many people got upset....i did as well....part of me knows that taking responsibilty for my own life is important... and i have tried but also battle all my life....in fact i called to complain about the mail being late just today...and the supervisor's name is battle...to which i ( with my anaylytical bipolar mind ) reacted.......... i thought ," gee i battled allll my life but is could be taken as battle for youe life"... anyway....my original point was about why ex jws vehemently disagree... i remember when i saw and expereinced abuses in the org..and when i asked "sisters" and " brothers' for validation ( am i right or wrong?????
) some would agree then get frighetend and avoid me remember how we were warned against murmuring and how often so as not to appear unloving many people would use inuendoes or roll their eyes or play any number of mind games......( very loving that).
expressing honestly and openly was , for the most part, not safe so i think that many exjws having been repressed as to free expression are more prone to let it all out... and disagree vehemently......... just a few thoughts.
I have no problem with disagreements. I think they can be used to a healthy end of self-expression, and self-awarness. However I do have a problem with name-calling, and downright dirty behavior from people. They are not just disagreeing, they are lambasting and power tripping. When a disagreement degenerates into an arguement/flame war it's not helping anyone.
I too disagree with Crystal. I believe in positive thinking, but I don't think it can cure a chemical imbalance (which is what clinical depression is). However, recently I posted something many people disagreed with and was quickly ganged up on and verbally attacked. Not disagreed with, but attacked. I think there is a big difference between constructive criticism, finding flawed reasoning, and just different view points. Some people let their emotions and wounded pride take them too far. So rather than participate in a group attack, which is what I feel it had degenerated to, I just kept my opinion on that subject private.
Sometimes I think here, with the protection of monitors and a million miles, it is easy to get downright mean and nasty, and that doesn't do anyone any good at all.
it looks like today is going to continue to be a day of surprises for me.. one of my daughter's classmates called earlier and said she wanted to go "trick or treating" with my children this hallowe'en.
normally, this wouldn't have surprised me, except that when we first met this family, it was on the little girl's birthday, and her mother made it very clear that they didn't observe birthdays because it was against their faith.
so anyway, i wanted to clarify with the mother today, because she had told me in the interim that they were jws, and i didn't want to cause any offense or do anything that would get the little girl in trouble later on when her mother found out.
That's awesome Scully...please do keep us posted!
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Oh man, that is so me!
i picked up my 17 year old granddaughter at school for my daughter who wasn't feeling well.
when i got to her home and went in, emily my little 18 month old grandaughter came over to me and i picked her up to give her a hug.
she puts her head near my shoulder and snuggles up for about 2 or 3 minutes.
ahhhh....
<-----giant ball of mush now
Thank you for sharing, that's so sweet. She will remember. I remember lots of things about my grandpa, the way he gave hugs was one of them...
do any of you good people of jw.com remember going to a district convention and hearing that little announcement the chairman would make before the bible-drama started?.
it generally went like this: "please remain seated during the drama and please do not obstruct other peoples view if using recording equipment such as camcorders" and he would also say "please do not use flash photography because it distracts others and is of little use.".
they made such a fuss anyone would think we were all going to witness the second coming of christ, floating down on his chariot onto the field!
A hush fell over the crowd while they awaited the arrival of the Lions
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i went to the 1999 memorial with no underwear on!.
so what's the worst thing everyone's done on borg property?
Slapped a girl in the face...I was like 5 at the time...she was really pissing me off...
my brother (raised a jw, never baptized, not a jw at all) and i were talking this morning, and he informed me that our grandmother - our last living grandparent - is very ill. it sounds as though she will die soon, because she stopped taking her insulin and all other medications.
my mother informed my brother after receiving a phone call from her brother/my uncle.. i'm the only one of my siblings who was not informed directly by our mother.
out of all my siblings, i'm the only one who was baptized as a jw and then left, so i'm thinking this is par for the course with being shunned, although my grandmother was never a jw herself.
(((((Scully)))))
So sorry to hear this! But you really should just be there for your Grandma now. Deal with the dumb dubs later when the dust settles. No need during this pressure filled tense situation to make things worse. I think you can voice your displeasure with your parents, but don't let it blow into a knock down drag out battle. Just focous on Granny...
Again, sorry to hear this--
