the message has changed.
now the message is "the society is the channel".
the end is nigh is dropped from #1 to about #5. .
"Then they'll eat your rose bushes, fruit trees, and garden, and then you'll have to call the newspaper and put them up for sale and watch all your rose bushes, fruit trees and garden vegetables die... "
Or they'll pull all of your wet wash off the clothesline and climb all over the hood and roof of your father-in-law's brand new Oldsmobile,lol.
I agree with you, Country Girl, goats are definitely smarter than sheep
they say that memory is all about association.
when we recall a happy or desperate time in our lives, a song or tv programme or even an ad can bring the era concerned flooding back.. these are my "leaving the dubs" selections:.
my song was "beautiful sunday".. my tv programme was "monty pythons flying cicus".. my tv ad was "click on here and turn up the speakers.
Creed-"What If"
We only had one tv channel then, so I watched lots of movies instead. "Pleasantville," "The Matrix," the original "Stepford Wives," and "The Truman Show" really hit a nverve.
i am one of those lurkers who finally decided to post and introduce myself.
i could possibly win an award for the longest addicted reader without posting ever.
i started reading this site when the old h2o shut down - what was that - 3 or 4 years ago.
Welcome Chloe!
You learned to read with Dick and Jane? Lucky you! We had a counterfeit pair in my school-Sally and somebody or other, and the dog's name was Flip. Did you know that Little Golden Books is now selling Dick and Jane books again (I saw them at WalMart last week)? So, you could be a fine vintage wine, or a tall glass of milk,lol.
last night i could not sleep.
i was feeling particularly betrayed by the wts, more so than usual.
i was mad at the wts.
{{{Zugzwang}}}
I hope today goes a lot better for you. I really loved this part of your poem:
They gave more value to the blood, than the life it stood for
So many lives lost from this shit, they're rotten to the core
Saying that a symbol such as blood, is more important than your life
Is like saying that the ring on her finger, is more important than your wife
I don't know if you keep a journal, but it can help immensly in dealing with the anger.
Regards,
Cicatrix
hey guys, .
was just wondering what is your worst jw buzzword.
probably all of us hate the "just leave it in jehovah's hands.
"Guard against independent thinking"
"husbandly owner"
this one is good, too.. of the friends you had that you grew up with.
1) still active?.
2) faded?.
All of them are in, but one is questioning and has made it clear that she will not shun me.
My daughter's friends are all fading, though:)
ok, so many of us thought we would one day soon be on easy steet.
the new system would be here, no more problems, health or financial.
we would all have our own house and life would be bliss.
An idea is just an idea, and out of ideas lots of great things are born and new vistas embarked upon (and a lot of mistakes, too, but we can learn from them).
Practically, though, it may be kind of hard to pull of, what with emmigration regulations, political climates, cultural diffences, disease outbreaks and such.But not impossible if you're determined.
Have you thought about saving up for a few years, selling your house and stuff and looking into caretaking positions? There are lots of people here in the US and abroad who own property who need caretakers. My grandparents were caretakers for a few years for a very rich couple. They got to live in a mansion on Lake Michigan, and got paid to do it. They even got permission to have a family Christmas party there one year, so all of us were able to enjoy the holidays in that incredible house (it was so big, I got lost trying to find the bathroom, lol).
http://www.escapeartist.com/efam6/Property_Caretaking.html
Just a thought, lol.
here are some loving, choice words from the watchtower empire.. .
july 15 - first study article page 10 .
do you find delight in the law of jehovah?.
scapegoat- 1. a goat upon whose head are symbolically placed the sins of the people after which he is sent into the wilderness in the biblical ceremony for Yom Kippur 2. a. one that bears the blame for others b. one that is the object of irrational hostility
projection-6. b. the attribution of one's own ideas, feelings, or ATTITUDES [emphasis mine] to other people or to objects;esp:the externalization of blame, guilt, or responsibility as a defense against anxiety
Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary
i am so sick of the "team" mentality on both sides.
for instance, i am a fiscal conservative, right?
but the conservatives in office are spending like drunken sailors.
I here ya, Avishai,
That's why I'm an Independent;)This year it will be choosing the lesser of two evils, but I'm going to vote because there are certain issues that I DO NOT want being decided for me by a faction that thinks they know what I need better than I do.
When I was JW, I had no say in what went on because I was a woman. My say might not mean much in the political arena, but I can exercise it and I will exercise it. If I'm wrong, I'll just have to learn from the mistake and move on, just as others who have voted for princes who turned out to be frogs have.
I respect those who listen to the issues and make a careful decision not to vote because they really can't support the policies of either party. What bothers me is the vast amount of people who never vote because they think their vote doesn't make a difference.Of course, they have the right to hold that view-we live in a relatively free country. I just hope the apathy doesn't come back and bite us in the butt someday, that's all.
i dont know much about physical abuse in the jehovahs witnesses,but there is sure alot of verbal abuse.i was verbally abused for many years in the congregation by a high up elder,who didnt know anything about his own religion,and a ministerial servant i will call jerkwad abusive.
(almost sounds like a jedi doesn't it?
)this punk was a first class liar,jerk,and cared very little about the organization.here's how his cycle of abuse would work:he would do a mean thing,you would become offended,then he would say if you didnt work it out with him,he would go to the elders.you would then forgive him,and then next week,he would do it again.nice,huh?when i first joined the organization,they told me to never tell anybody in the world about any incidences like that,or i would bring reproach on jehovahs name.i wanted to tell somebody,especially the cops,but never did.has anybody else had any experiences like this?god bless.
I've been doing some reading and learned that this is a common cult tactic that keeps you unable to gain any equilibrium.
My daughter had an experience with the grand daughters of a prominent woman in another congregation. They were doing to her what you described (though not to the point of warranting police involvement), so she decided to avoid them. Well, Grandma called me and threatened that if my daughter didn't continue to "associate" with her grand daughters, she would go to the elders and charge her and me with causing a division. When she said that, I just hung up on her, I was so pissed. After thinking about it for awhile, I called her back and told her that I had "strongly encouraged" my daughter to continue associating with her grand daughters, but that I was leaving the matter entirely in her hands as to what she would choose to do, as I trusted her judgement in the manner. My daughter decided she would not physically leave when the girls came around, but she would mentally shut off anything they had to say. She also stopped responding to any of their emails. Grandma was livid, but technically, there was nothing she could do about it. I had "mended the fence" and the elders had consistently refused to baptise my daughter, so there really wasn't much that could be done to her.
