was born in jw, never a zealot but just went because i didn't know any better, left for 10 years then was invited to study, went back, became a zealot, MS, now totally awake and on my way back out for good. no amount of restudy could ever get me back. i woke up due to deep grief and depression from death of family member. My brain snapped like a breaker was tripped after that i was suddenly very negative towards WT. Took a while to understand what went on in my brain but now thankful.
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How many of you here became inactive and went back for the second time and then left for good?
by FingersCrossed inand what were the reasons?.
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Would any married JWN posters be interested in going on this trip?
by cedars indownside..... sixteen months in total confinement with your spouse.. plus-side..... going into space and becoming the first humans to enter mars orbit.. any takers?.
http://news.sky.com/story/1057890/mars-mission-tito-project-seeks-married-pair.
by the way, it's in 2018 - so if you're not married yet, i guess there's still time!.
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Not with my wife, but a girlfriend?..............sure
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BF vented on "apostate" websites
by FingersCrossed inhmmm.... how many of you, in the process of waking up, got really angry with websites like jwfacts.com etc.. etc... even calling them slanders etc?
i think all of you are doing a great job, keep it on guys!.
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yea...it takes a while to call WT a CULT with confidence......I'm living proof......
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DFing....Human Rights Violation and DEFAMATION of character?
by Terry in>>>>>>>>>no one can allow human rights to be violated--not even inside the insular confinement of relgious policy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
what are "rights" and where do the stem from?.
human equality.
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ALSO...civil rights laws guarantee.... FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION.....No-one can coerce, intimidate, or prevent you from FREE association with ANYONE else!!!!
WT Don't believe in that!
Crime is comitted when elders come to you and say "we will DF you for continuing to associate with...SO and SO...
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DFing....Human Rights Violation and DEFAMATION of character?
by Terry in>>>>>>>>>no one can allow human rights to be violated--not even inside the insular confinement of relgious policy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
what are "rights" and where do the stem from?.
human equality.
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I still wanna have a beer with you.....if I EVER get to Texas.........
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I never wanted a tattoo before . . .
by Hortensia inbut i might consider this one:.
http://i.imgur.com/fflupeb.png.
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i was always the type to shun tattoo wearers (pre awakening) BUT i got one less than a year ago....and im HOOKED! GET YOUR TAT ON! If this wasn't a public post I would show mine off!!! I think it KICKS ASS!
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What happened immediately after your Judicial Committee was over?
by civicsi00 inwhenever i went to my judicial committee (over 3 years ago), the elders opened with a prayer for jehbooboo's guidance.
then they followed up with their loyalty question, "do you believe in the faithful and discreet slave?".
of course i answered "no", and shortly thereafter i handed over my disassociation letter.
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My oldest brother was DF'd years ago, they said to him, "we are disfellowshipping you" stood up, turned their backs on him until he left.
I told him that would have been a good time to have a baseball bat. VERY VERY ODD!!
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Great idea from Whathappened? package for those facing a JC.
by hamsterbait inhe suggests that just as elders are given a package for fighting court custody cases (what to say do bring etc).
those facing a jc should have a package for dealing with a situation where the elduhs want to "talk with you.".
hows about we start to make one?.
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Once they lying and manipulation is exposed, then the world court of public opinion and governments will step in on OUR side. REMEMBER, all the places where JW's are persecuted or restricted or like in Russia, once were allowed but NO MORE?
This is the result of governments stepping in to protect the rights of individuals. I would love to send a congratulatory letter stating our support of the WT ban and harassment in Russia. THANK them for protecting it's citizens from the harmful effects of the cult!
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Great idea from Whathappened? package for those facing a JC.
by hamsterbait inhe suggests that just as elders are given a package for fighting court custody cases (what to say do bring etc).
those facing a jc should have a package for dealing with a situation where the elduhs want to "talk with you.".
hows about we start to make one?.
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We need to show the world how the WT lies to hide how manipulative and controlling they are.
For example, if a newly interested one asked if they were required to follow every dictate and doctrine the WT puts out, and if the doctrine changes, are they required to accept it?
ALL JW's to the highest levels would say NO! OF COURSE NOT!
And if they don't accept, are they allowed to walk away without reprocussion, every JW to the highest levels would say YES! Anyone is FREE to do as they wish without reprocussion!
BUT a recorded JC with the accused telling the elders they don't buy all the doctrines and teachings of the WT highlighting changes, and seeing the end result of DF-ing would be a powerful tool in swaying unsuspecting ones to staw the HELL away!
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Resigned being an elder
by subytrek ini am new here and this is my first post although i have lurked here for a couple years.
i started having doubts about the org back then and my curiosity overcame my fear of so-called apostate websites so here i am.
i just resigned being an elder 2 weeks ago.
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I want to say congrats and well done, but two things concern me. Based on my quitting as a servant I think you become a target of suspicion way more easily. So bad for you. Also what bothers me is the org begging for men to reach out has netted some pretty young new meat to fill positions that are vacated. Last weekends assembly a young guy looking all of 17 was introduced as an elder. It was all the control I could muster to not say holy shit! Out loud. Wish you all my best in your exit