The big "F" - Fornication. Acknowledging sexuality was the worst crime. After that, disloyalty to the Big Bully Borg and the possibility of "falling away" to eternal doom. Ooooooooohh!!!
Posts by Mum
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21Ozzie's Weekend Poll #26
by ozziepost ini read the news and i feel like i need some "light relief".
how's your weekend going?
mrs ozzie and i are just sitting down with some very exotic espresso coffee (you what that means, mulan!
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weak people
by vanilla sky inis it sad to anybody that people can jump from one stupid idea to another.
i mean what else can you believe in after the jehovahs witness's.
why just jump from belief to another.
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Mum
Everyone has beliefs, whether "weak" or "strong" or somewhere in between. What is your point?
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Why I don't Have Children
by teenyuck ini just read luckylucy's thread and wanted to tell my story.
i also want to ask a question: why are women who have children viewed more favorably than women who don't?
especially if the choice is to not have children.
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Mum
Teenyuck,
First, it's "Que sera sera."
I understand and support your choice not to have children. It is true that women with children are held in higher regard. I remember that when I was pregnant (in 1972), I thought having children was not in fashion for either "worldly" people of the time or (especially) JW's. Yet, I got so much positive feedback from both sources. Women would tell me about their various pregnancies and what was special about each of their children, though I was a perfect stranger. Even JW women were happy and excited for me despite the "nearness of the end." I was confused, to say the least.
I had a long conversation with my daughter this evening. She thanked me for loving her and expressed her amazement that I did so despite the fact that my mother did not love me. I did want children, but, because of the JW religion, thought it best not to have any. Fortunately for me, I did have a child despite my "best intentions" not to. If I had not, I would have no family now, as I am alienated from my dysfunctional, abusive, addicted biological family and am twice divorced, single for the last 10 years.
We are all different for good reasons. There are plenty of children out there in need of a home if you ever decide to adopt. My daughter has one child, but says that she will not have any more except by adoption. Options are never closed in the non-dub world.
Happy for your happiness,
SandraC
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Mum
I used to work in a doctors' office. One day I was transcribing a medical report for one of the docs. While the doc was dictating, he allowed his 3-year-old son to take the microphone and sing his favorite song, "Jesus Loves Me."
The tyke sang it thus:
Jesus loves me; this I know,
For the Bible tells me so,
Little ones to him belong,
We have teeth, but he is strong.
Misunderstood lyrics are the specialty of the under 6 set. Theirs are the best!
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If You were God?
by Mr Spock inif you were god what would you have done differently?
i think i would have forgiven adam and eve and the last six thousand years would have been a cakewalk.. i wouldn't have had to send down my son to be nailed to a tree and die a horrible death.
i also would have been much more clear in what i expext of my creation, maybe write a book that could be understood by anyone..maybe i would have sent some of my angels down to the babylonians when they were throwing babies in the fire as sacrifices to say don't do that!!
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Mum
If I were god / God, I would be an atheist.
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My DA was announced
by LB inmy mole inside just e-mailed me that it was announced from the podium that i've disassociated myself.
funny thing though.
one of the girls that we took to maui a few years ago just called to invite us to her wedding.
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Mum
Congratulations, LB!
I envy you. My daughter and I discussed doing just what you did. However, she has a half brother still on the inside, so we want to keep that door open, as he is a pretty sane and normal, decent fellow to have been fed this crap all his life; he has a lovely wife and adorable little son as well. If he ever escapes the 'tower walls, we're gonna let 'em have it.
Welcome to the real world where life is rich with possibilities and FUN!
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How many times in front of a committee??
by refiners fire ingeesh.
lets see.
when i got baptized the first time.
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Mum
Only once. They wanted me to "confess to adultery" so that my JW husband, from whom I was separated, would be "free to remarry." My female intuition told me that his prospective marriage partner would dump him within a short period of time because just wanted the house for her son and his new wife. My (now) ex and his girlfriend did a pretty good job of screwing around with me and did convince a judge to award my ex all of the marital property.
I went back to court and was awarded my half of the marital property, which wasn't much anyway.
So -- oh, yes -- the committee meeting: Well, one of the brothers was very kind to me, and I have never forgotten that. The others were total jerks. It was that meeting that set me free once and for all from any notion that these people had any connection with God, with morality and decency, or anything good. They showed their true colors. I had taken a tranquilizer before the meeting so I would remain calm. After the meeting, I felt very peaceful and looked forward to the rest of my life because I knew I was free.
They kept trying to meet with me again, but I refused. My ex got his divorce on grounds of "cruel and inhuman treatment" because those were the days before no-fault divorce. He didn't get to marry his ugly, scrawny girlfriend anyway because she split up with him as soon as the judge awarded me half of the community property.
Justice. You gotta love it!
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Hairy Porter and the Chamber of Demons
by comforter inwill you let your kids see hairy porter and the chamber of demons?
the nameless one's little peeps ain't a seeing that mess.
spiritism is a work of the flesh.
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Mum
I know nothing about "Hairy Porter," although I think he worked at a hotel where I stayed once.
As for Harry Potter, I love him. I was an unwanted, abused child like Harry. And, like Harry, I was much farther advanced than the people who hurt me. Harry is an inspiration to children who are in bad situations that one day they can be in charge of their own destiny and have power within themselves to transform their lives and lead and inspire others.
I highly recommend any of the Harry Potter books or films to JW children or any other children who have been molested, beaten or otherwise harmed by great big bullies.
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ScARY Man.. Michael Jackson
by Country Girl inhttp://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/021114/161/2oheh.html
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Mum
lauralisa, I think your "take" on the king of pop is very insightful and accurate.
I saw the movie on VH1 about the Jacksons, and my heart broke for all of those children who grew up in a household with a bully (narcissistic personality disorder most likely) father and weak-willed JW mom. Without years of therapy and some education, how could any of them be expected to have a chance at gaining self-esteem, self-acceptance or self-empowerment. I know it was just a movie, but I don't think anybody got sued for inaccurate portrayal of the people or situations.
It is sad that Michael and his siblings are not likely to get healthy in this lifetime.
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I suspect this will sound wierd
by buckthesystem ini have been reading about the witnesses for some time - but the information i read is always massively biased against.
it is even hard to tell if this web site is exclusively designed for aggrieved ex-witnesses.
i am at a loss here.
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Mum
I, too, endorse the definition so eloquently expressed by MYOHNSEPH.
I would like to add that I believe many JW's are victims (and, yes, I know that the term "victim" is politically incorrect; so use the word "targets" if you prefer) because they are selected on the bases of their general malaise, disappointment, feelings of disenfranchisement or alienation, to be easy to lead into a high control group because they need hope, however ill-founded.
I was a JW for 17 years. As a teenager, I escaped an abusive family for hours at a time by getting involved in JW activities, so, for me at least, there was some useful "purpose" for my early years as a JW. As time went on and adulthood advanced, I realized that I had not become a better person as a result of being a JW and could not believe that God who gave me certain abilities would ask me not to use them for the benefit of myself and others.
buck, welcome to the forum. Objectivity is not easy when one has been through what some of us have with this twisted cult.
Regards,
Sandra