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  Armageddon Part II

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the things that bothered me as a jw growing up was the idea that there would be a second armageddon.

  they don't phrase it that way, but what else could it be when you read stuff like this from the 3/15 wt.. "obedient humans will gradually be set free from enslavement to corruption.

  if they remain faithful to jehovah throughout the millennium and during the final test that will come at the end of it, their names will be permanently written in the scroll of life.

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  truth_b_known

  "Paradise" as defined by Jehovah's Witnesses is: Preaching to people for 1,000 years.

  Yes! After you give up all personal pursuits or any joy in this "old system of things" for a life of preaching an unpopular message to your neighbors you are rewarded by being spared at Armageddon. In addition to being spared, you get to preach that same message, but for an additional 1,000 years.

  There will be no time for personal pursuits. You will have even less personal freedom as you won't even get to decide were you will live while conducting this 1,000 year preaching work. When you are not preaching you will be working tirelessly with stoneage technology to provide food and shelter for yourself.

  Why waste your life pursuing anything in this temporary life and run the danger of losing out on this grand future that awaits us?
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  He's the Reason for the Seasoning

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  out of respect to those that don't appreciate secular christmas or festivus or [logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence] but still keep the traditions of the religious holidays (any of them- christmas, hanukkah, any of them), i have not posted this until the religious part of those festivities have largely passed.

  in no offensive way whatsoever, i wish each one of you the best in whatever you celebrate: merry christmas, happy hanukkah, festive festivus, joyous kwanzaa, or (i suppose trying to put a similar muslim holiday in would be offensives so...) have a safe islamic pilgrimage.

  and of course, our asian friends who don't celebrate secular christmas are also wished well this season.

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  truth_b_known

  This is a most excellent post.

  I was pleasantly surprised to see a favorite internet personality of mine post a photo of her "Yule Tree." Her Yule Tree had a viking helmet on the top instead of an angel or a star. I had to give her a happy "Blessed Yule" and a hearty "Hail Odin Allfather".

  This year was the first year I went all out and truly celebrated Christmas. I did have fun with it, though. If someone said, "Merry Christmas" to me I would return the greating with, "Merry Christmas and Blessed Yule to you." I even added a "Hail Thor!" to a few greeting if I was particularly close to that person.
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  What "Unwritten Rules" Did Your Congregation Have?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i knew of a hall that allowed only white shirted speakers on the platform for sunday public talks!

  when a visiting speaker did not wear the official white shirt he was either told that he couldn't give the talk or he could change shirts,as the hall kept a variety of sizes, just in case of an emergency!!!

  i don't make this up.

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  truth_b_known

  As a Ministerial Servant I went from being the Sound Servant, to the Magazine Servant, to the Literature Servant. I got called into the backroom once by the elders because, as the Literature Servant, I should be placing more books than magazines. I was commended on all other areas of field service.

  So, I guess the Sound Servant has to answer the most at the meetings. The Magazine Servant has to place the most magazines. The Accounts Servant has to donate the most money. The Territory Servant has to work the most terroritories.
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  What were the "anointed" doing from John to Russell?

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in watchtower teaching, what were the "anointed remnant" doing between the death of the apostle john and the coming of pastor russell?.

  during all those centuries, there was no visible organization publishing watchtower literature so as to enable people to understand the bible.

  there was no organized worldwide door-to-door preaching work being done (who assigned territories and kept track of time records, for example?).

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  truth_b_known

  This question is a very good one, but it is too dangerous for Jehovah's Witnesses to answer. The Watch Tower tells people that Charles Taze Russell was the first true christian since the first century congregations. This implies that for some 1,800 years there were no true christians acceptable to Jehovah.

  To say that there were christians acceptable to Jehovah between these two time periods is to imply that Jehovah found non-Witnesses acceptable. This would further imply that you could be acceptable to Jehovah without being one of Jehovah's Witnesses or being part of an earthly organization. So, this question presents a catch-22 scenario.

  The Watch Tower Society usually sees such questions as a "trap" to be avoided because, what ever the answer is, it will expose their false teachings. So, rather than answer it, they will make a statement like: "Isn't more important to considered what we need to do now to gain salvation?" It's a smoke-and-mirrors approach to the bait-and-switch.
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  Open Letter To The Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  open letter to the jehovah's witnesses.. http://coldfusion-guy.blogspot.com/2011/12/open-letter-to-jehovahs-witnesses.html.

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  bangalore.

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  truth_b_known

  I think most people are irritated by Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on their door on any given morning. The fact that it is Christmas day would only intensify negative feelings. This is turn makes the practice a "bad witness".

  I have gone out in the door-to-door ministry on Thanksgiving and Christmas mornings. I stopped before I stopped being a Witness. I just felt it unloving and counter-productive.

  I know the party line is,"The end is near. Would you refuse to knock on your neighbor's door to tell them their house is on fire simply because you didn't want to interrupt their pagan holidays?" Well, according to the Watch Tower, their house has been on fire since 1914. The sense of urgency died out a long time ago.
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  Cigars And Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  cigars and jehovah's witnesses.. http://drschiffman.wordpress.com/2011/12/23/cigars-and-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  truth_b_known

  Great post and link. I love the comment left on that website from the former JW. He brings up a point that I have said for some time now, which is that the Watch Tower reasoning on smoking applies to food and obesity.

  Why is it a disfellowshipping offense to defile one's flesh with tobacco, but it is ok to defile the flesh with cheeseburgers?
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  Jehovah's Witness bogus NEUTRALITY claims during war examined

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this detailed article presents a large number of give and take propositions, suppositions and conjectures.. it challenges ray franz chapter in crises of conscience on jw policy for mexico/malawi, et al.. http://settingtherecordstraight.wordpress.com/category/ray-franzs-conscience-not-really-in-crisis/.

  the important fact missing from the consideration and analysis is that the watchtower society privately advised draft age brothers who were facing draft problems.

  i was personally taken aside, for example, by the congregation overseer and his assistant to the kingdom hall library.

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  truth_b_known

  To add insult to injury, some 20 years after the Vietnam conflict, the Watch Tower Society reversed it's position on alternative service. How many young brother had their life ruined by unnecessarily serving prison terms? 1 is 1 too many.

  Further, the whole neutrality thing is a made up doctrine based on a group opinion. You know the typical line of thinking where some how the Watchtower takes a scripture and goes from square one to square four without blinking an eye. That is to say:

  1) Jesus said his kingdom is no part of this world so christians should not get involved in politics. Those who claim this also boldy state that Jesus did not start ruling until 1914 and that was only in heaven. They're still waiting for his return.

  2) A prophesy in the old testament says nations in the future"will learn war no more" and some how that means worshippers of Jehovah will not "learn war"now.

  3) Thou shall not murder is turned into "You shall not kill" which is actually two different things.

  From all of that we are to believe christians should not participate in war.

  "Well, Jesus said the second greatest law is to love your neighbor. Is it showing love to kill your neighbor in war?" you will most definately hear. In response I say, "Is it loving to let someone be killed when you could have done something to stop it? King David was praised for his military conquests and those praises were recorded in the Bible. If something such as participating in war were so wrong why would Jehovah allow such things to be recorded for generations to read? Why wasn't the nation of Israel punished for this if it were so wrong?"
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  Some Balls in the March 2012 WT

  by Yan Bibiyan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  source here, page 19, par 20:.

  "20 a north american brother writes:.

  when my wife and i attended an assembly.

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  truth_b_known

  The evil empire states in its writings that the only joy possible in this old system is service to Jehovah. So, anything that is not centered around workship to the Govern Body that brings you joy must discarded. They can't have you finding joy outside their organization, now. You might start thinking you can be happy without them.
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  Super Bowl predictions - Place them now

  by JRK in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after seeing most of the season unfold, i am going to make my prediction who will be in the super bowl this year.

  after seeing the play of most teams i am ready to go out on a limb.. here is the official prediction:.

  the super bowl will have the green bay packers vs. the baltimore ravens.

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  truth_b_known

  I predict that the Minnesota Vikings will not be there.
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  U.S. Officially Ends Its Mission In Iraq

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  u.s. officially ends its mission in iraq.. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/world/middleeast/panetta-in-baghdad-for-iraq-military-handover-ceremony.html.

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  truth_b_known

  I give Iraq 6 months before islamic extremists destroy all progress and send them back to the stone age.