Posts by Splash

Youngs - 1Ti 6:4 he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and word-striving, out of which doth come envy, strife, evil-speakings, evil-surmisings,

Which makes me think, who today dotes on word strivings?

Who spends much time redefining specific words, terms and phrases, leading to 'strife' and 'evil surmisings'?

Let us not miss the point of 1 Tim 6:4, as in context we are hearing a description of those who do not teach the accurate doctrines of Christ but rather twist them, resisting attempts to be corrected.

These are the ones who 'lack piety' (ASV), like to 'wrangle' (Youngs), are 'corrupted' in mind (NWT).

Or as the English Standard Version says:

he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth.

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NOT on JW.ORG: Who currently owns the Judges' Beth Sarim 4440 Braeburn Rd San Diego ca 92116?

by Balaamsass in

the other thread on the judge rutherfords death lead me to google beth sarim at 4440 braeburn rd., in san diego ca.

nice digs on google earth.

the home next door is over $800,000 on zillow and trulia.

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I recall there was a clause on it that it should never be sold because it belonged to the Princes, but then it got sold - in the 1940's?

My recollection is vague until I can access some search tools.

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Interesting Youtube video: "Jehovah's Witnesses and hedge funds revisited"

by Londo111 in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhn7xzopyii.

according to this, the uk branch made a cool million pounds from investments...which implies theyve much more invested.

i know very little about financial stuff.

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Was it last weeks WT study or the week before which had the example of someone who invested in the markets and lost his home?

The point was not lost on my congregation: investments are for the greedy and weak. They are from satan so do not be tempted to gamble.

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Suspected Jehovah's Witnesses attacked by pitbull in the preaching work

by cedars in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtrdafq0xac.

i guess this sort of thing is bound to happen, even though the society implies that angels are out there protecting jehovah's witnesses from harm.. interestingly, it wasn't an angel who came to the rescue, but a "worldly" bystander with his gun.. .

cedars.

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LITS what a horrible story, to have others put you in danger because of their irrational, reckless and irresponsible retardedness.

I am well known for not doing houses where there are dog signs. I just quote Pr 22:3 (above) and suggest if they are that concerned they will have to do it themselves.

There's no way I would be bullied into it, I would bully them back. Easier for me since I have external genitalia so am allowed to speak out strongly.

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Anyone have a record of lies told by the WT.

by jam in

example, in print (may 22, 1969 wt, you will never die).. bold face lies, to show that this organization have been lying.

out of their rear since day one.

be denied.

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JOHANNES GREBER (SPIRITUALIST) IS A QUOTABLE SOURCE FOR THE WTBTS

NO - w55 10/1 p. 603 par. 33 Part 3—What Do the Scriptures Say About "Survival After Death"?

It comes as no surprise that one Johannes Greber, a former Catholic clergyman, has become a spiritualist and has published the book entitled "Communication with the Spirit World, Its laws and Its Purpose." (1932, Macoy Publishing Company, New York)

NO - w56 2/15 p. 110 par. 10 Triumphing over Wicked Spirit Forces

Says Johannes Greber in the introduction of his translation of The New Testament, copyrighted in 1937: “I myself was a Catholic priest, and until I was forty-eight years old had never as much as believed in the possibility of communicating with the world of God’s spirits. The day came, however, when I involuntarily took my first step toward such communication, and experienced things that shook me to the depths of my soul.

YES - w62 9/15 p. 554 par. 5 "The Word"—Who Is He? According to John

Similar is the reading* by a former Roman Catholic priest: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. This was with God in the beginning. Everything came into being through the Word, and without it nothing created sprang into existence." (John 1:1-3)

*The New Testament—A New Translation and Explanation Based on the Oldest Manuscripts, by Johannes Greber (a translation from German into English), edition of 1937.

YES - w75 10/15 p. 640 Questions From Readers

Thus the translation by Johannes Greber (1937) renders these verses: "Tombs were laid open, and many bodies of those buried there were tossed upright. In this posture they projected from the graves and were seen by many who passed by the place on their way back to the city."

YES - w76 4/15 p. 231 Insight on the News

A report in the Bible, as translated by Johannes Greber, says that when Jesus died, "the earth quaked, and the rocks were shattered..."

NO - w83 4/1 p. 31 Questions From Readers

As indicated in a foreword to the 1980 edition of The New Testament by Johannes Greber, this translator relied on “God’s Spirit World” to clarify for him how he should translate difficult passages. It is stated: "His wife, a medium of God’s Spiritworld was often instrumental in conveying the correct answers from God’s Messengers to Pastor Greber." The Watchtower has deemed it improper to make use of a translation that has such a close rapport with spiritism. (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) The scholarship that forms the basis for the rendering of the above-cited texts in the New World Translation is sound and for this reason does not depend at all on Greber’s translation for authority. Nothing is lost, therefore, by ceasing to use his New Testament.

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Suspected Jehovah's Witnesses attacked by pitbull in the preaching work

by cedars in

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtrdafq0xac.

i guess this sort of thing is bound to happen, even though the society implies that angels are out there protecting jehovah's witnesses from harm.. interestingly, it wasn't an angel who came to the rescue, but a "worldly" bystander with his gun.. .

cedars.

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At 01:47 "BEWARE OF DOG".

(Pr 22:3) Shrewd is the one that has seen the calamity and proceeds to conceal himself, but the inexperienced have passed along and must suffer the penalty.

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Is this true? Do the elders really do it like this?

by Julia Orwell in

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i put this week's wt paragraph about disfellowshipping on my fb page and said how poor robert's family didn't even check to see whether he was dead or alive in 16 years and a friend of mine of the 'conscious class' commented about how unchristian she felt disfellowshipping to this degree is, and i agreed.. another friend, and uber-jw who has a host of illnesses and yet pioneers, who everytime she and her husband go to another congregation, if he's not appointed within three years they move to another and try for an appointment there - he used to be an elder and no one is willing to promote him again- replied to my thread.

now keep in mind she has a dfd son and she doesn't even know whether he is dead or alive, because she follows the wt to the tee.

she replied, among other things,with this:.

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Shepherd the Flock of God (2010) p.91

9. While there is no such thing as automatic disfellowshipping, an individual may have gone so far into sin that be may not be able to demonstrate sufficient repentance to the judicial committee at the time of the hearing. If so, he must be disfellowshipped.

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