Posts by Scully

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What to tell your kids

by TheListener in

what did you tell your children about why you don't go to meetings anymore or aren't a witness?

especially if you have a witness spouse..

Mr Scully and I left together, although I pretty much got the ball rolling with research and questions. Our eldest was 8 years old, and the younger two were still in diapers. We sat down with the eldest and explained that it was important to own up to mistakes, no matter how old you are, and that we had made a mistake believing the JWs.

At first he was upset and asked if he could still go to the Meetings™ with Brother™ So-and-so. We explained that when he was older he could decide to be a JW if he still really wanted, but that now we were going to be a normal family like all the kids in school, and have birthday parties and Christmas and Easter and play sports and do fun things instead of going to Meetings™ all the time. He's never looked back.

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Have you ever heard a talk on child molestation following a judicial reproof?

by NVR2L8 in

when someone is reprimanded by a judicial commitee there is usually a talk given to the congregation about issues that leads to serious sins.

sometimes that talk takes you by surprise because the reproof was private and no announcement was made to the congregation.

other times you figure out why an individual was the object of a judicial commitee...i heard talks on the usage of drugs, cigarettes, pornography, bad forms of intertainment, fornication, adultery, fraud, gambling, disapproved medical treatments...but never on child abusers and mostly how to protect your children against this terrible crime.. do you think the reason there is never mention of child abuse is that if many knew there is a child molester in their midst they would pressure the elders to go to the autorities?

Scully

No. The Elders™ never bothered to tell my parents that they had assigned a molester to the Book Study™ in our house. The Elders™ figured they'd protect their own daughters and throw me under the bus instead.

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When you see some beautiful creations, then they say that Jehovah is wonderful...

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

have you noticed that the dubs have mentioned from time to time when you see some beautiful creations, then they say that jehovah is wonderful?

is there something wrong with their thinking?.

Scully

He also created mosquitoes (and other vectors) that carry malaria and West Nile Virus, in fact he created the viruses and bacteria too, even the ones that kill people.

He must have also created HIV, gonorrhea, syphillis, trichomonas, chlamydia, mad cow disease and any other communicable illness.

Isn't he wonderful?

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Reasoning on "It doesn't matter if the FDS are wrong"

by konceptual99 in

i had a bit of chat with my wife last night after she was worried that i was less than enthusiastic about the ministry this morning.

i expressed that i was slightly confused about the generations and how it's kept changing despite 1914 etc.

being a core doctrine.

Scully

Well, apparently it *does* matter when the Catholic Church is wrong, and apparently it *does* matter when Catholic priests molest children. If you are going to hold other people to a certain standard, even the Bible expects you to hold yourself to the same standard. If it were any other church besides JWs, they would be all over it like a dirty shirt.

" For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." ~ Matthew 7:2

" For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." ~ Luke 6:38

"And He was saying to them, 'Take care what you listen to. By your standard of measure it will be measured to you; and more will be given you besides.'" ~ Mark 4:24

Once I started seeing failings within the Organization™, I no longer felt that JWs had any right to judge other peoples' belief systems. The JWs were just as flawed.

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Taking a break from AJWRB due to lack of interest

by Shawn10538 in

jw
friends

well, i've given it a year of my life and i hoped it would have taken off a bit stronger.

i thought it was a good cause and still do.

but i can't pay my bills and i can no longer justify spending time on the cause of saving lives with blood transfusions.

Scully

Zen, there's nothing wrong with looking after your own needs at all. I wish you well.

AJWRB has been an entity for over a decade, and it will continue to serve a need, to every JW who has need to question the WTS's doctrine against blood transfusions and for every person whose life may be touched by the JWs and their position against blood transfusions.

It will continue to serve that important purpose even as an archive.

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Sorry!! Another Daily Mail Article -Harassment at work JW's again!!!!

by cantleave in

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174181/sales-rep-repeatedly-accused-gay-didn-t-like-football-wins-44-000-payout-harassment.html.

sales rep who was branded 'gay' because he didnt like football wins 44,000 payout following months of 'atrocious' bullying.

michael austin was branded a 'crafty butcher' by his workmates.

Scully

No Reproach On Jehovah™ there, not even a smidge.

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The Watchtower Society Sends Known Sexual Predators To People's Homes - How Can We Alert The Public?

by DT in

i find it incredible that the public doesn't know this.

the watchtower society is showing callous disregard for the rights and safety of the public.. i really think we need to make an effort to get the word out.

the watchtower society and child abuse are in the news now, especially with the candace conti case and the recent actions of anonymous.. do you think we can get a newspaper interested in covering this story?

Scully

Here's an old thread that I started that relates to the topic of child molesters within the JWs.

JWs and the Concept of Conscientious Objection

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The Watchtower Society Sends Known Sexual Predators To People's Homes - How Can We Alert The Public?

by DT in

i find it incredible that the public doesn't know this.

the watchtower society is showing callous disregard for the rights and safety of the public.. i really think we need to make an effort to get the word out.

the watchtower society and child abuse are in the news now, especially with the candace conti case and the recent actions of anonymous.. do you think we can get a newspaper interested in covering this story?

Scully

I was part of a letter-writing campaign to every elected Member of Parliament (over 1000 letters) around the time of Dateline and The Fifth Estate's program of the pedophilia problem within the JWs.

This was when JWs were still having the Book Study™ in private homes, and assigning pedophiles who were known to the Elders™ into the homes of unsuspecting families for this weekly Meeting™. We received numerous replies, and I received one very concerned phone call from the office of the MP for Nunavut who was absolutely shocked and thought it was terribly disturbing that JWs were sending child molesters Door-to-Door™ and allowing them to attend Home Bible Studies™ and Congregation Book Studies™ without the knowledge or consent of the homeowners.

Most MPs replied cordially with a thank you for alerting them to the problem. The most disturbing reply came from Vic Toews, who is still a MP today. He claimed that pedophilia was the crime with the best hope for rehabilitation, and with proper treatment, has the lowest rate of recidivism. I wish I'd kept his letter and the paraphernalia that accompanied it, because he's the very same MP who tried to paint Canadians who oppose global internet surveillance of private Canadian citizens by the police as being in league with child p0rnographers.

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Latest WT: "Refusing to appear before a JC is like refusing medical treatment"

by cedars in

in the latest october 15th 2012 watchtower (page 13).... "because of what they perceive as defects in the elders, some individuals who engage in serious wrongdoing in the congregation have refused to appear before a committee of elders assigned to help them.

this could be likened to a patient who loses out on the benefits of a treatment because he does not like something about the doctor.".

sounds like they're now trying to stigmatize those who try to avoid judical action.

Scully

And yet, doctors and nurses respect the rights of patients to refuse treatment.

Can the WTS say that about people who refuse to submit before a Judicial Committee™? Or do they just judge those people as being evil, gossip about them maliciously to others and reject their association on the basis of their refusal?

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According to nder no circumcisions, would we accept a blood.

by ranmac in

Scully

It's like metatron always said: they're getting dumber and crazier.