Yes, and please give our best regards to your lesbian JW relatives, won't you?
Posts by Scully
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Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)
by slimboyfat inafter some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
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Why I never escape abuse....part 3
by KariOtt innow i am in rehab.
45 days inpatient.
the program was a 28 day but i had to play my social service caseworkers game.
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Scully
Kari
jgnat has made a good recommendation to read Professor Zimbardo's book.
I'm going to recommend a few books as well. These ones will help you stand up to religious abuse and set boundaries with your husband:
The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse, by David Johnson and Jeff VanVonderen
Tired of Trying to Measure Up, by Jeff VanVonderen
When God Becomes a Drug, by Fr. Leo Boothand last but not least, Combatting Cult Mind Control, by Steven Hassan (You can also access some of his information via his website: http://www.freedomofmind.com)
I've included the Amazon.com links so that you can check out the sample pages before purchasing - you might also be able to find them in the public library.
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How would elders react if I tell them that I would accept blood?
by Daniel1555 injust recently i explained to my parents and my wife in detail, why i would accept blood or red, white blood cells, platelets or plasma in a medical emergency.
i showed them the inconsistencies and flaws about blood fractions and also the biblical reasons that show clearly that jehovah and jesus do not want a jehovah's witness to die because of that wrong doctrine.. my parents reacted surprised.
they are both about 50 years in the "truth.
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Scully
Word on the street is that they don't DF you for what you do. They DF you for being unrepentant about what you do.
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Head coverings yet again in the latest KM
by life is to short inmy husband just gave me the latest km the novermber 2013 and it yet again has a question box on head coverings.. question box "should a female publisher wear a head covering if she is accompanied by a male pubisher at a doorstep bible study?".
it says "when a female publisher conducts a reagular, scheduled bible study and a male kingdom publisher is present, she should wear a head covering.
(1 cor 11: 3-10) the july 15 2002, issue of the watchtower page 27, explains: "this is a prearranged session of teaching where the one conducting the the study actually presides.
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Scully
The way to get JW women to revolt is to tell them they have to wear a head covering all the time.
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Why I can never escape abuse
by KariOtt ini have been abused in some way or another my entire life.
my dad started molesting me when i was 3 years old.
he physically molested me until i was 16 and we moved into a new house where i had a lock on my door.
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Scully
Kari
I'm very sorry for what has happened to you. I'm glad you were able to go to counselling with your father and that he was able to realize how he hurt you, and how he took steps to restore your relationship and gain your forgiveness. I'm proud of you for being able to forgive him - not too many people can do that - yes, you are remarkable.
You've done so much for yourself and your son to help break the cycle of abuse in your family. There's one more step to take: you need to feel that you are worthy of being treated with the respect you deserve as a human being. You need to give yourself permission to escape abuse.
Let me switch the word abuse with another equally ugly one: slavery. Do you think anyone who was ever a slave felt that it was a situation that they could 'never escape' from? All it took was for one person to stand up and declare themselves deserving of and entitled to freedom instead of slavery. The idea spread, and the more people who believed in the equality of all persons, the more people dared to stand up for their own right to be free.
You have to believe that you deserve better in order to expect better. Believe in yourself and your right to be treated properly, my dear, that is the most important thing you can teach yourself.
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250,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died refusing blood
by nicolaou in80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.
250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.
stop this #cult!
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Scully
This is exactly why we need to be documenting these deaths, with references to newspaper articles, etc. I'm all for exposing the loss of life caused by the WTS's anti-blood transfusion policy, but it has to be done with TRUTH, not speculation, not exaggeration and not sensationalism. I'd also suggest including the names of people who committed suicide after having been Disfellowshipped™ and being shunned by people they love.
I'd wager that the actual number would be several times the number of deaths at Jonestown, but still, I want facts.
I remember there was a Watchtower Victims Memorial on the AJWRB site that was supposed to be updated regularly with new names. For whatever reason, the person(s) who initiated it did not continue to update the site.
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WBATS BANS ANYTHING BESIDES THE WT! SMH
by ADJUSTMENTS init irks me when i read in the watchtower do not use secular sources or the internet to do research... but in that very same wt it will quote a secular source or literature to prove a point!
how hypocritical!!!
it's all apart of their limited information mind control!
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Scully
They are terrified that we will try to find a Quote™ that they've put in their Literature™ and discover that they've deliberately misquoted, twisted or otherwise misconstrued the original author's intent to suit their cult agenda. They do it all the damn time.
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Oops I did it again. Another mistake
by KariOtt inso it seems i made another mistake.
i expressed negative feelings to my hubby.
i'm not allowed to express anything but positive emotions.
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Scully
You *can* escape. You just need to learn how.
You can start by getting a job and having a bank account that's just your own. He says he doesn't want you working because it's to his advantage from a tax perspective. It's actually more than that. It allows him to keep you dependent. It allows him to keep a power imbalance in play where he is the "adult" in the relationship and you are the "child" - that's clear from the way he expects certain behaviour of you and throws a hissy fit when you are disobedient or 'disloyal' in his estimation.
Take courses. Widen your circle of friends. Become involved in your community as a volunteer. There are lots of options. But whatever you do, do not allow him (and his JW relatives and friends) to isolate you by compelling you to associate with only JWs. Isolation is their most useful tool - it creates a situation whereby their behaviour becomes "normal" when it isn't - you become accustomed to it and accept it. If you keep a broad range of friendships, you'll have someone there who can tell you "Hey Kari, that's messed up! Don't let them do that to you!"
Take small steps toward growing independence - he doesn't have to like you having a job. He has to accept your decision to work or go to school or whatever, and the tax implications that go with it. Tell him you think it will be good for your self esteem, or that you're becoming bored, or that you feel it's important for you to take care of your own expenses. What if he decides to run off with someone else? You'll need to have the skills to support yourself, because he sounds like the kind of guy who will try to weasel out of spousal support payments (do you have a pre-nup agreement?) Worst case scenario, what if he were to die suddenly? Where would that leave you financially? It's important for you to have marketable skills so you'll be able to be self-sufficient in the event you become single again. What about starting a small business from home - do you have talents like cooking or baking or making jewelry that you could sell? There are tax advantages to being self employed, perhaps that's angle he hasn't considered.
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JW Doctors
by elisaporquien inokay i know that there are people who began careers in medicine, law, etc.
then later got into the truth.
i know that pursuing a higher education is not forbidden but a personal choice.
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Scully
Perhaps attending medical school will help you change your mind about blood transfusions just as much as the link rebel8 posted will. Simply put, JWs have been grossly misinformed by the WTS and as a result have an unhealthy paranoia regarding the use of blood in a medical context.
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Disfellowshipped but still forced to pay maintenance or alimony
by Markw1509 incan i ask for your opinion?
i have been disfellowshipped and divorced for a few years.
my ex-wife and my daughter have cut off all contact from me.
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Scully
Money is really what JWs worship, despite any claims to the contrary.
The Necessary Family Business™ clause proves it with utmost certainty. If your ex-wife felt so strongly that any influence of yours was so harmful to your child, she wouldn't accept the money, nor would the WTS encourage it. If they were compelled to endure financial hardship for the sake of The Truth™, then the WTS would likely have to set up a fund to assist single parents who divorced on grounds of Spiritual Endangerment™. Your money suits their agenda just fine.
Would you have the right to require an accounting of how the money is spent? Do you get to claim alimony and child support as a tax deduction? I'd get it in writing from the court that the ex must supply you with receipts. You don't want one thin dime going in the Contribution Box™ - all of it must be used for essential expenses, such as clothing, food and shelter.
Are the maintenance payments enough to allow her to not have a job and Pioneer™ instead? If that's the case, then I think a review and possibly a revision of the support order is a reasonable thing to request. Is she making substantial Contributions ™ to the WTS using your support payments to do so? Again a review is in order.
If you do succeed in having the payments decreased, set aside the amount you've saved in a trust fund for your child's education. Tell the court that is your plan. You know the WTS would rather have that money for themselves, and you need to think of your child's long term benefit.