Posts by Scully

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Can You Answer These 16 Bible Questions Honestly?

by The Searcher in

what does the bible really teach?

using only the bible, can you prove - 1. who the 'other sheep' are?

2. the context of john 10:16?

Scully

You want honest answers to those 16 questions?

Here goes: 1-16... I don't care. Honestly.

thx buhbye

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latley i have been telling some of my family members that i don't beleive anymore, i had my mom especially not really beleiving either...then today's special talk scared her into submission to the wt society.

i guess the brother started crying during the part when they were telling inactive people to come back to jehovah.

she now says she's going to be a regular auxillary pioneer and that she's not going to give up on serving jah now cause she's afraid she's going to die.

Scully

she's not going to give up on serving Jah now cause she's afraid she's going to die.

Way to go, Jehovah™. People aren't serving you because they love you, admire you or appreciate you, they're serving you because you scare the $h!t out of them.

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Atheism or Agnosticism, which one is correct?

by Joey Jo-Jo in

this has been bugging me for a while, and while i dont want to turn this into something about semantics i think that we should quickly define what an agnostic and atheists are.. richard dawkins defines 7 different types of atheist ranging from weak to militant atheists, but along these definitions there appears one definition with a strong resemblance to agnosticism.. to me an agnostic is a person who neither believes nor disbelieves in deity/deities, but there are those who define agnostics as a ignorant who simply just don't care or don't have the intelligence to come to sound conclusion.. an atheist can be a person who disbelieves in a deity/deities based on the current mathematical and scientific understandings of the universe, as well as understandings that can refute certain religions such as the strong influence of protestantism christianity in america.. .

from here i will refer deity as anything ranging jehovah to a real spaghetti monster, it's not important because a) we dont know b)for the purpose of this discussion it is not important to define what we believe god to be.. an argument that can be used about a deity is -we cannot prove nor disprove that god exists- this is referred to as a null hypothesis, an assumption that we cannot create a hypothesis to prove or disprove this deity.

this to me is agnosticism and is more correct than the idea of atheism.

Scully

I'm more of an I-don't-give-a-crap-one-way-or-the-other-ist. I have no intention of wasting any more of my life on it, when there are so many more productive and positive things I could be doing.

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What came first? Atheism or the "apostasy" in JW terms?

by Silent_Scream in

for those who are atheists: did you become an atheist while being a jw, then left, or did you not view them as the true religion and left, but still believed in god/bible, but later turned to atheism?.

Scully

I think I was atheist before my parents joined the JWs (when I was 6) - prior to that, we never talked about god or jesus or anything religious - I'd never been inside a church nor had I been christened as an infant. I had to drink the Kool-Aid once they joined because all other options were removed.

Twenty-five years later, when I quit the JWs, I gradually found my way back to non-belief.

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Hunting.

by zeb in

do any witnesses go hunting?

what are you thoughts and feelings?.

Scully

Yep. I know and am related to some who do. Fishing too.

Personally, I'm not a fan of hunting and fishing for sport. My dad gave up hunting (but not fishing) when he converted to the JWs, but it was a lifestyle he grew up with. He felt, once he became a JW, that shooting animals and the possibility of not bleeding them correctly would make the meat inappropriate for JWs to consume and showed disrespect for life. My take on it was that he was guilted in to giving it up because one doesn't just go hunting for a couple of hours - trips would sometimes take 2 or 3 days - which meant missing Meetings™ and Field Service™. My brother and his FIL don't seem to have the same pangs of Conscience™, and they are both Appointed™ Brothers™ in their Congregations™. I don't know how much of what they bring back is used, but I don't see my SIL allowing a big moose or deer skin to decorate her home - I think they only use the meat.

I won't eat venison or moose or rabbit or other game animals, and I'm not even keen on eating game fowl or fish that has been baited and hooked. But really there's barely any difference between hunting wild game and slaughtering a farm animal. I wouldn't be able to eat a chicken that I had to kill, but I know JWs who raise chickens for their eggs and then kill them for their dinners.

I guess I prefer to think that chicken, fish, steaks and bacon come in neat little packages from the supermarket. It keeps the messy and uncomfortable business of animal slaughter out of sight and out of mind.

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I Just Found Out That The Elders SAVED A Seat For ME For The Memorial

by minimus in

jw
friends

a few weeks ago, i visited my mom and a couple of elders and a young ms also came by to see her.

while i was there, the elders invited me to the memorial and i was very polite with them and thanked them for their invitation.. i just spoke to my mother and she said the elders saved 2 seats for my mother and i !

they seemed confident that i would show up.. unbelievable!.

Scully

I'm guessing it was the "hot seat". I wouldn't lose any sleep over missing out on *that*.

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Why do the Witnesses keep mentioning how many people were at the Memorial at their hall?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

Scully

What else can they brag about? How many homeless people they help? How many people they feed? How their contributions to medical research have improved the lives of [insert disease of choice] patients? How many women and children they save from abuse? How many alcoholics or drug abusers they've helped?

"No" to all the above. The only thing they give two $h!ts about is Memorial attendance, so that's all they have to boast about.

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Jesus and Satan - Brothers?

by moggy lover in

i am researching some material and would like to get my facts right.

i know that the mormons teach that satan and jesus are brothers, but the question i would like to ask is:.

does the watchtower teach this as well?

Scully

Kind of like Jacob and The Man In Black from LOST??

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5/15 WT - WT Society Displays Condescending Attitude towards Marriage

by flipper in

jw
friends

as most of us know the wt society has always claimed that it's dissapproved in god's sight to marry a non-jw .

although they've never made it a disfellowshipping offense, any jw who marries outside the jw organization is looked at as " weak " or lacking " spirituality " and loses certain alleged " privileges " in the congregations.

they use scriptures in the old testament as support for this.

Scully

"If a dedicated servant of Jehovah married an unbeliever, this would be an act of disobedience to God. A Christian who marries an unbeliever is NOT exemplary and lacks a real appreciation for God's gift of marriage."

Maybe the Christian™ who marries an Unbeliever™ has experienced first-hand that JW marriages are not always the Exemplary™ bed of roses the WTS would have everyone believe they are. Whose fault is that? And do those JWs who beat their partners, lie to their partners, cheat on their partners - and get away with it because they are part of the Good Ol' Boys Club Elders™ or Ministerial Servants™ - showing a proper "appreciation for God's gift of marriage"?

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Here it Comes

by TOTH in

jw
friends

the phone rang a few minutes ago.

when my wife said, "hi daddy!

" i figured it was "the call".

Scully

Yeah, the Brothers™ and Sisters™ are supposed to Love™ you so much they would give their lives for you. Why wouldn't they give you a ride to The Most Important Headcount Meeting Of The Year™?