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  Israel ... Jehovah ... The Promised Land ... Genocide

  by wannabefree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is a topic that i was always uncomfortable with, but, as a good indoctrinated jw got myself to accept the spin.

  of course, now that i am out, when i speak with other "christian" friends, they make the same excuses.

  god's ways are above our ways ... okay, sure ... but really???.

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  westiebilly11

  i find it hard to fathom the god of the bible....supposedly the reason why mankind is suffering is because the issue of sovereignty was raised in garden of eden.....but the more i think about this viewpoint the more i fail to see why a god would a) have allowed his sovereignty to be challenged ( in this case by 'satan')....and b) subjecting mankind to suffering for so long just to prove god's righteousness is rather like me as a father allowing an intruder into the home to murder my children and me saying 'there you are...i'm a good dad..'....logic fails me in all of this..
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  Really bizarre part on the meeting last night

  by stillin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on the service meeting there was a part covering a couple of pages from the tms guidebook chapter on warmth and feeling.

  rather than coaching the r&f on how to make a school talk sound warm, it focused on the people that jws meet in their ministry.

  basically, the part could have been labelled "how to fake warmth and feeling.

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  westiebilly11

  ..if you can fake sincerity you've got it made.......
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  Qualifications for Elders & MS

  by snakeface in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know that elders and ministerials are appointed by holy spirit.

  i was in the organization for about 25 years and was in 4 different congregations over the years.. in one congregration there was a sister in her mid-50's with an unbelieving husband.

  he did not attend meetings.

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  westiebilly11

  comments sadly are very true.....genuinely loving and kind men who willingly help without seeking recognition rarely become MS/Elders.......but judgmental, clicky, nepotistic,who bring overlarge well packed cases are...
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  What book do they study with ''newly interested ones'' ?

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  2. friends

  as title, when starting a new ''bible study''..

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  westiebilly11

  with all the wet weather recently in the uk I reckon pioneers count every hello as either a study or a return visit..just to keep their hours up..what a sham.
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  NEW BOE LETTER - It just got exponentially harder to "fade"

  by sir82 in

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  2. friends

  here is the text of the letter:.

  february 2, 2014. .

  your brothers,.

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  westiebilly11

  Ha!! In over 30 years a witness I had 4 shepherding calls........even though I was a single lone parent brother who needed support and received none.... many elders are riddled with nepotism....blinkered self serving token care for others....
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  Evolution? Or Was It Designed? What Do You Think?

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/manchineel.

  you can't even stand under it in the rain and being tied to one will result in a slow, painful death.

  so toxic it's freaky.. .

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  was evolution designed....or did creation evolve....
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  The Biggest Fear From The Watchtower Organization Is ???

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i think the organization is worried most about how jws will stay loyal to their families even as it rejects the admonition of the gb and elders..

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  westiebilly11

  listen..obey.....and be stressed.....
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  WT ain't going out of business.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've heard this said in other posts, so now i'm going to combine it in one post.. the $28 million awarded to conti is only drop in the bucket for what they are worth.. there would have to be 100 s of successful sex abuse law suites before they would feel it.

  quite frankly i don't reckon there would be enough with the right circumstances to have a successful case against wt.

  having a dozen or so cases isn't going to break the bank.

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  yep..totally electronic and low overheads.....and only preaching work will be via street trolleys etc....
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  Will this Memorial be our last?

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  they just put up the march km 2014 on the private website.

  most of it is same-old-same-old, with info here and there about the memorial.. somebody here might post the march km for all to see, i wont.. i just wanted to share the paragraph from page 2 q&a anticle: will you seize the opportunity?

  upcoming memorial enables us to show gratitude .

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  westiebilly11

  ..to be expected....1914-2014...but disillusionism will set in come 2015...
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  How much money do you think WT actually makes a year ?

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i know that just recently they've made billions by cashing in their real estate from brooklyn.

  i also saw somewhere that only the uk branch, in a year, made 16 million pounds in profit with their stock portofolio.

  my cousin worked personally for a guy in italy, who was involved in the mafia , and was a jw, and apparently he donated at a single convention more than 1 million euros(probably as a way to wash his sins).

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  westiebilly11

  all that money sloshing around......and they are still tax exempt?....charity status?.....oh come off it!!!