Longlivetherenegades

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  The unending and fruitless argument on Trinity

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  those who say they are christians or follow christianity needs .

  1. father .

  2. jesus .

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  @MeanMrMustard

  I have really enjoyed your comment on this topic. I think people love chasing shadows than reality as captured below......

  These threads end up in these cycles because you are speaking right past each other. Both sides operate with radically different definitions of just about every word that matters on this topic. That is why both sides can quote the same scripture, the exact same one, and yet both sides will act like it soundly ended the debate.

  The main reason why many religious organization today are conflicted internally leading to calling defectors apostates and conflicted externally by calling other religious denomination not part of their own false christians
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  The unending and fruitless argument on Trinity

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  those who say they are christians or follow christianity needs .

  1. father .

  2. jesus .

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  Longlivetherenegades

  Really appreciate the discussion here. All this unending back and forth over trinity in summary for me is men queuing behind fellow to advance their agenda and ideology which count for little in the final analysis.
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  Ramapo project approved

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

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  news is that the ramapo project has been approved by authorities and can move forward..

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  Longlivetherenegades

  Thank you journeyman
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  To whom should Christians pray to?

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  it is funny how christians argue back and forth over the father, jesus christ and make it look as the father and the son are are loggerheads over supremacy.. even who to pray to between the father and jesus are means to create rivalry.

  it boils down to this, your essence of being a christian goes beyond those unending argument making jesus a rival of his father.

  psalms 65: 2. o hearer of prayer, to you people of all sorts* will come.. john 14: 13 also, whatever you ask in my name , i will do this, so that the father may be glorified in connection with the son.

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  Longlivetherenegades

  It is funny how Christians argue back and forth over the Father, Jesus Christ and make it look as the Father and the Son are are loggerheads over supremacy.

  Even who to pray to between the Father and Jesus are means to create rivalry. It boils down to this, your essence of being a Christian goes beyond those unending argument making Jesus a rival of his Father.
  

  Psalms 65: 2

  O Hearer of prayer, to you people of all sorts* will come.
  

  John 14: 13 Also, whatever YOU ASK in my NAME , I will do this, so that the Father may be glorified in connection with the Son. 14 If you ask anything in my name, I(Jesus not the Father)will do it.
  

  How will Jesus do what you ask, petition or request in his name if indeed Jesus cannot hear your prayers?

  Face reality stop chasing shadows. Jehovah and Jesus aren't at loggerheads regarding prayers.
  
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  The unending and fruitless argument on Trinity

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
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  those who say they are christians or follow christianity needs .

  1. father .

  2. jesus .

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  Those who say they are Christians or follow Christianity needs

  1. Father

  2. Jesus

  3. Holy spirit

  Your accepting trinity does not make you have more of the three itemized than the fellow who don't accept the trinity belief and vice versa. If otherwise give your concrete explanation.

  It is a shame after thousands of years of arguing trinity that refuses to die is still being a controversial discussion. There is more in being a Christian than trinity.
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  Loss of a Jehovah’s Witness who I considered a friend

  by Fallen_Winter in

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  i have known a jehovah’s witness for approximately 15 years and i have considered her a friend although i know that jehovah’s witnesses cannot have friends who are not jehovah’s witnesses.

  approximately two years ago, i was going through a very difficult time and i asked my friend if we could have bible study.

  she said yes and we have been studying the bible since.

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  Longlivetherenegades

  In simple terms, Jehovah's witnesses conduct Bible studies to make those persons eventually become Jehovah's witnesses. If you declare that you want Bible studies with Jehovah's witnesses from day 1 but added the clause that you will never join their membership. Such Bible study is dead on arrival. They won't come or waste their time studying the Bible with you.
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  What made you look behind the jw curtain?

  by Touchofgrey in

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  i was listening to a lunchtime call in radio show about jws and the personal experiences of being disfellowshiped, and a former elder called in saying he was disfellowshiped for asking about jws and their involvement in the un in the 1990s ,and he just said look it up.. thinking that it was a made up lie ,so i looked it up and it was true even a letter confirming it from the un itself and that led me here and to jwfacts and further research into the history and teachings of jw and walked out the door about 5 years ago.

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  Trying to provide a rebuttal against Ray Franz books. It was a bridge too far or mission impossible. 2 - 3 years later, disassociated.
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  Experiences After Leaving

  by Freeatlast2024 in

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  i am writing to ask if anyone cares to share their experience and/or offer advice for people leaving.

  i was raised in the religion, and both my parents died when i was very young.

  i recently stopped associating because my conscience no longer allows me to preach or support the organization.

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  Longlivetherenegades

  The book In search of Christian freedom is one you should read especially the concluding part applies to your moving on and forward.

  Ray Franz got very good explanation as to how to use your freedom while free. Keep your mental balance as to how you sway to right or left. Watchtower has made thousands of decisions for you. It is your time to make those decisions yourself using your freedom doing the hard work of making those decisions and facing the consequences.
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  Serious sinner?

  by Gorb in

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  with the statement in the study watchtower this sunday, that stop serving jehovah is a serious sin, the following:.

  - can i conclude now, that we, (i, wife and 2 children), since 2008 pomo and no longer active in any religious activity, are serious sinners for jehovahs witnesses?.

  writing this in a watchtower, a statement like that, could have big implications.. it makes me so sad.

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  That fear of man got me laughing 😂🤣😂🤣😂

  The of fear of Governing Body members is not fear of man. Dumb writers
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  2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change

  by Listener in

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  a change to their doctrine came from jackson.

  this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.

  but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.

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  Longlivetherenegades

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