"I don't always like what the governing body is doing or how they approach things, however, I'm not so arrogant as to believe that I know better. Also, I recognize that they are not perfect"
I hate those expressions. When people ask "Do you know more than the governing body"? As if their being such gives them knowledge.
What does perfection have to do with anything? Is the assumption that a perfect person will make the right choice everytime?
Not without full knowlege.
they do not do a good job of exploring why different people stop going to the meetings and make any improvements.. this is a quote from another topic.
it reminds me of the may 15 2012 study article about marry only in the lord, p 4 para7.
they are not trying to improve their product (the people).
What does not make sense is that they quote from Deut 7
“When Jehovah your God at last brings you into the land to which you are going so as to take possession of it,+ he must also clear away populous nations from before you...And Jehovah your God will certainly abandon them to you, and you must defeat them.+ You should without fail devote them to destruction.+ You must conclude no covenant with them nor show them any favor.+ 3 And you must form no marriage alliance with them. Your daughter you must not give to his son, and his daughter you must not take for your son. + 4 For he will turn your son from following me, and they will certainly serve other gods; + and Jehovah’s anger will indeed blaze against YOU , and he will certainly annihilate you in a hurry. +"
If they defeated and destroyed them; how would any of their sons or daughters turn the Israelites to their religion? If Jehovah helped the Israelites defeat them, why would they turn to the losing god? Is the losing god so much more attractive than Jehovah was? Why would He have so little faith in himself? Infact those defeated would either conceed to the victors, or hate them.
What did the Polish and other countries that the Nazi's invade do? Did the Nazi soldiers turn to the other side when they took women from the other side?
It just doesn't seem real? It seems more paranoid than reality and does not make sense.
and then, immediately after babylon the great is destroyed, almost without a break, look at matt 24 :29 -immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.. now in what sense will the sun be destroyed and the moon not give its light?
are you ready for that?.
and you'll fall across the finish line into the new world !
"how does one manage to sleep while out in service"
Easy, I'd make care groups of 3, the other 2 would go on studies or long calls and I would stay in the car, catch some sleep and count time.
Once I was on a Bible study with someone and I was so tired that I requested to nap on their couch.
and then, immediately after babylon the great is destroyed, almost without a break, look at matt 24 :29 -immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.. now in what sense will the sun be destroyed and the moon not give its light?
are you ready for that?.
and you'll fall across the finish line into the new world !
It is not Sam Herd that gave that. People like to attach the name of a GB member to give it importants. It was given by Elwood Johnson, a black CO.
Don't pick on Sam Herd. Back when I was pioneering and working nights, others would complain about me sleeping while out in service. Sam visited as a DO. Someone asked about sleeping while out in service. His reply was that may be the only time one has to sleep. I got to give it to him for being understanding where the others weren't.
"the timely spiritual food we receive is proof that jesus, the head of the congregation, is keeping his promise to feed us.
when giving the sign of his presence, jesus said that he would use the faithful and discreet slave to give food at the proper time to his domestics.
[1] (read matthew 24:45-47.
Why does it matter? Do people believe that because Jesus appointed them that it means something? Why does that make it special?
It is unneccessary since people would naturally want to shun a smoker since they stink. PU.
according to jws christ established his kingdom in the heavens in 1914 and subsequently cast satan out of heaven then.
and they point to rev.
12:7-9 for "proof.
Yes, Satan was cast from heaven in 1914 according to scripture.
But I don't see how a spirit, something without form or shape or body can be cast anywhere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2gemsmw2y.
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pot calling the kettle black?.
"I was bullied in school. I didn't use my fist. I used my foot. Those bullies were afraid of me. A well place hoof to the shins or knee and they were running from me." Exactly What can be fun about not using your fist to stop bullies?
"But Jesus commands to turn the other cheek so they may strike that one. Have they found New Light TM then?"
I am so tired of this "Jesus commands" Jesus did not command anything. He was not a commander.
He did not command field service or the memorial or paying taxes or anything.
"the family of a california girl want serious consequences for the three 16-year-old boys charged in her sexual assault and held responsible for driving the teen to her death.".
yes, what those kids did was really bad, sexually assaulting her and taking pictures and posting them.. but why aren't the parent taking responsiblity for the ultimate cause.
"the california teens are accused of sexually abusing audrie pott, 15, while she was passed out drunk at a classmates house party".. "15, while she was passed out drunk at a classmates house party".. .
"The family of a California girl want “serious consequences” for the three 16-year-old boys charged in her sexual assault and held responsible for driving the teen to her death."
Yes, what those kids did was really bad, sexually assaulting her and taking pictures and posting them.
But why aren't the parent taking responsiblity for the ultimate cause. "The California teens are accused of sexually abusing Audrie Pott, 15, while she was passed out drunk at a classmate’s house party".
" 15, while she was passed out drunk at a classmate’s house party".
Really????
Why is not blame being placed on the classmates and her family for having a party that served alcohol to 15 year olds, where those 15 year olds got drunk and passed out? Why is blame not being placed on her parents for allowing her to go to such a thing.
The parents need to be better monitors of their children and she should have been home studying for school rather than partying. The problem with this world is not cutting off the problems before they become problems, but want to blame the obvious. Even if there had been no rape and resulting pictures, would any of them have learned anything from her just getting drunk and passed out? That is what is sad. Because of that, this is doomed to be repeated.
please be honest....did love conquer it all?.
how did u make it work?.
to nonjwspouse:
you said " married to a man who was raised JW, left as a teen, never dunked. He was out of 30 years, didn't ever plan to go back but the red flag I ignored was he said he woud never attend another church and he still believed what the JW teach. "
How is that a redflag? He is smart and good if he would never attend another church. Other churches are still bad.
And nothing wrong with believing with Jws teach. The problem is the organization and since he was not baptized, the organization was not in him.
"He promised to raise our now 8 year old daughter Catholic". Why would anyone want to do that. That is worse that raising her JW.
