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  Considering Leaving? Consider Larc's comments..

  by DannyBear in

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  maybe this is the time, to stand up and be counted.

  larc says it so well in this e-mail to me:.

  ****thank you for your kind words and your recognition of me via e mail, on.

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  Winston

  Danny,

  So are you saying we need to be a good witness for the J. Witness.

  I don't think so!

  There a lot of good information on this board and I beleive a lot of freedom still.

  If it's all about being a good witness for the witness then we should kick Shelby out or perhaps anybody that don't beleive in GOD should be kicked out, because it might stumble the lurking witness.

  I dont' think this board is for a witness.
  It's for truth, and honesty for releiving a little frustation with the WT, for learning how to coup with leaving the Borg.

  But I don't think it's for giving a witness, and if we censure, then any witness we give is a false one.

  We are in LA la land again.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  JC FILE NOTES - What do they contain?

  by Amazing in

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  jc file notes - what do they contain?

  jones.. 15. brother smith would tell bro.

  smith noted too that bro.

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  jeffory,

  Good move in destroying your daughters files.
  Maybe there are some lurking Secretaries that are thinking of doing the same thing, from your example.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  I'm not sure if this is helping me

  by ballistic in

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  i posted another comment about how angry i'm getting with the organisation.

  the thing is, it is this and other message boards that are making me feel this way.

  this is bad.

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  Winston

  Ballistic,

  I wish you the best, a man gotta do what a man gotta do.
  That's a good idea you have about finding some friends, I hope you find some good ones, because that helps.

  For those lonely moments when you don't have any friends around use the board.

  Remember there's no such thing as a perfect friend. We all have are moments.
  

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  JC FILE NOTES - What do they contain?

  by Amazing in

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  jc file notes - what do they contain?

  jones.. 15. brother smith would tell bro.

  smith noted too that bro.

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  Winston

  LDH,

  D Wiltshire here.

  I'm sorry I wasn't implying you. I was just speaking in general.

  Everybody situation is unique and I was only giving what I concider helpful information to who ever wants it.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and arguing...

  by Abaddon in

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  one thing i have noticed, both in my own reportoire of personal habits and in those of others posting on xjw boards, is the tendency to argue.. i contrast this to a few other boards i've frequented on a variety of topics.

  obviously there are disagreements, but xdub boards can get really crazy at times.. there is this tendancy for xjw's to argue like rabid dogs; hell, it's not just the x's who do it, current jw's are just as bad.. this is over and above the normal 'spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard' atmosphere that often prevails on discussion boards (although if you ever want to see a really polite board i suggest you go to a lifestyle bdsmer's board!!)..

  are we all psychos?.

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  Winston

  I think a good arguement is healthy it means we are thinking and we don't just go with the flow.

  We may get our feeling hurt well that's life, maybe we will be forced to see we can't have it our way all the time, maybe we might be helped to see life from someone elses veiw.

  I feel Being Right is not unique too any group just that we may be alittle more prone to it.

  A good arguement can even give us help in fighting depression. We get our mind off our problems and on to how can I win this arguement for sport maybe.

  So to look at it as something to be avoided I don't think so.

  It's all what you make it or don't make it.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  Oz, perhaps?

  by AGuest in

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  freedom allows all opinions and facts to be uncovered.

  letting people air everything helps us understand what the issues truly are.

  sure some are more unprofessional than others but a person willing to understand what is going on will not worry about the "ad hominem" attack or swearing.

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  Winston

  Dogpatch,

  Thanks for the post.

  WHat are the chances that JIM JONES had this same problem?

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  Bethel rules... fables or truth...

  by MrMoe in

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  can you all enlighten me, i have heard certain "bethel rules" and wanted to find out if they are fact or fiction.

  1. only one item on any surface at any time (a phone or lamp etc.. as long as it is just 1 item.).

  2. allowance of $80 a month for toiletries etc... (has that allowance gone up).

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  Michael3000,

  D wiltshire here.

  Yeah I was in around 74-76 and I think maybe took off about 5 or 6 sick days total.
  She pissed me off so much that I took a couple of extra days off just because I didn't like to be question whether I was sick or not.
  I figured I was volunteer and shouldn't be put through the third degree to prove I was sick.

  Any way when they got rid of the 4 year requirement I left to get married.
  I didn't want to be dependant on the Society for my food or shelter.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  JC FILE NOTES - What do they contain?

  by Amazing in

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  jc file notes - what do they contain?

  jones.. 15. brother smith would tell bro.

  smith noted too that bro.

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  Winston

  I remember when I was an elder in the begining i thought the older brother were to soft, but after a few years experience I mellowed out some what and learned not to rely on the Society.

  Quite a few of the more experienced brothers that I knew would not openly go against the Society but you could tell they were alot more merciful and would often NOT look at things the way the Org did.

  It was usually the newer elders for the most part that felt the need to stick to the letter not of the law, but the letter of the Society's instruction.

  I remember one more experienced brother saying to a brother we just appointed an elder, when we gave him the elder's handbook from the Society, he said to him: "becareful the stuff in this book don't eat up your brains".

  I still being relatively new(3yrs.) as a elder was shocked by this statement, but as the years went by, found out that this was some very good advice.

  Latter as time went on I used to hate it when brothers would bring out the Society's elder handbook at our elder's meeting and give it more attention than the Bible. It seemed to me we had become just like the Pharasees.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  Eulogy for My Father

  by Farkel in

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  on tuesday, august 4, 2001 at 3:42.a.m.

  mst, duane floyd checketts, 77 died in his sleep due to complications from pneumonia.

  he is survived by his wife bette and two children, douglas checketts, patty smith, and 8 grandchildren.. duane, who was fondly called duke by everyone who knew him was born in farmington, utah on march 8, 1924. his father floyd, was one of 10 children raised in a tiny house built by his own mormon father who immigrated in the early 1860's from birmingham, england.

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  Winston

  Sorry Farkel,

  That was a beautiful eulogy you sure put a lot of heart in it.

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!
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  NEWSWEEK COVER STORY: Mormons

  by bboyneko in

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  anyone pick up the latest copy of newsweek?

  on the cover is a bunch of mormomns and they stare at me as if to say bwahahahaha.. anyone read the article?

  it looks in favor of mormons and ignores the many signs of it being a cult.

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  Winston

  Sue,

  How do you feel about polygamy?

  Former elder turned apostate (by WT definition)[:)}and proud of it!