They definitely knew. They are just a bunch of liars.
worf
Posts by worf
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15How can they say that?
by Mulan inregarding this quote from the article bill bowen posted this morning:.
while the four believe the show's impending broadcast has spurred the church's actions, church spokesman j.r. brown said that before tuesday, church headquarters had no idea that these people would be on the show.
i have to ask how j.r. brown, in good conscience, can say that?
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Lies - Professional and Amateurish
by metatron ini believe churchill said during ww2 that "truth is so important,.
it must be protected by a bodyguard of lies".
thus, governments.
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worf
Che,
Your comment shows either of 2 things:
1. that you have absolutely no idea of what is going on within that organization that you are a part of. OR,
2. You are just being sarcastic.I hope for your sake that you are just being sarcastic.
Otherwise you will be in for a very rude awakening.worf
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I Want My Money Back!
by Beck_Melbourne indo you remember the donation box on a stand at the back of the kingdom hall, or sitting on the coffee table in the centre of the room at the book study?
since i was a little kid i remember my grandmother giving me a few coins to put in the box for the world wide preaching work fund...and then as i grew older...i was given a note or two...this time for a neighbouring kingdom hall fund.
as time went by...an adult in my own right...i would discreetly put in a few notes for the kingdom hall utilities or to help with the costs of hiring a stadium for the district conventions etc...and sometimes for kingdom hall quick build projects.. i feel so ripped off when i reflect on the amount of money the wt has inherited from deceased estates...and the amount of money and real estate they have hoarded over the years.
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worf
Beck,
Maybe if you could use a copy of the "Giving" brochure, that might help you to prove that your Grandmother was coerced.
This brochure was given to the elders to keep in their file and to use discreetly on publishers who asked about how they could contribute to the wts. I have a copy of it.worf
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MILLIONS NOW LIVING
by LDH in.....have already died.. they have given over any semblance of a normal life to a kult korporation that just continues to feed on their fears.
they might as well be dead.. many of the millions who were alive when that statement was made *did* die, waiting in vain to get the don lapre shortcut to financial prosperity and happiness.
they mistakenly thought if they just put in a little more time here, host another co there, they would get the house of their dreams in the real soon now paradise that is perpetually "just around the corner.".
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worf
I love it Lisa.
worf
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Fighters Against Children
by silentlambs ini came across this old post from h2o and thought you might find it interesting.
how far we have come to be at the point we are.
silentlambs.
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worf
Avenger,
I agree wholeheartedly with your words that here and there a battle may be lost but the war will be won.
And I would just like to add:
This latest tactic by the wts to df those who have openly spoke out in standing up for what is right, is nothing more than a desperate attempt to try and save their skins.
It won't work. It will just make all of us fight even harder. To win we just have to be imaginative. Albert Einstein said that"Imagination is more important than knowledge".
I know that this latest tactic has made me want to fight even harder and thats exactly what I'm going to do.The fact is that WE are fighting for what is RIGHT.
The wts is fighting for what is wrong and thats why they will lose.The wts is the most evil entity on the face of this earth and is the biggest fraud/deception of the 19th 20th, and 21st centuries.
Destroy the wts and the world will be a much better place.
The wts MUST be exposed, taken down, and DESTROYED.I'm not saying I know exactly how it will eventually happen although I'm sure the pedophile situation among others will be some of the things that signal their death knell.
But here is one thing that is for sure: The wts came into being as the result (not of God), but instead as the result of the THOUGHTS of some people.
Their destruction will also come about as the result of the THINKING of people who are standing up for what is right.
And one of the things it takes is : "imagination."worf (warrior class)
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Should Amnesty Int'l be Informed?
by metatron inamnesty int'l, along with other human rights groups, are frequently.
called upon to defend jehovah's witnesses.
for example, a witness.
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Interesting Proposed Lawsuit Against Catholism...
by ISP inthis guy released a book in 2001. because of its success, he has decided to proceed with a 'denunciation' lawsuit.
sounds handy.
wonder if a similar action could be taken against the wts.... .
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worf
I am sure that the same type of lawsuit could be brought against the wts if anyone wanted to.
worf(warrior class)
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Tiny Cracks in the Foundation
by TMS intwo unsettling incidents are lodged in my memory.
they are unrelated, except in the general sense that they opened tiny fissures in the foundation of my belief system.
returning from the summer assembly in kansas city, missouri in 1969, i was approached by tom moore, a plain-speaking circuit overseer .
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worf
AMNESIAN,
Well said. I agree with everything you wrote. And I also know that the GB does not believe their own writings. They know their teachings are false but from the days of Rutherford its all about money and control of peoples lives and people's money.Its obvious. God never used them, he's not using them now and he never will. And they are criminals because they know all of this. They are the biggest fraud of the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries.worf
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NOTE TO GOVERNING BODY
by Francois inhave you folks or your agents read and carefully digested the posts in the very recent thread entitled "how many got the real truth from the internet"?.
and it spells trouble for you.. you would be doing the world a favor if you just admitted your faults and disbanded the entire organization.
and given the destruction you've wrought in people's lives over the last hundred years and more, that's exactly what you should do.. but, since there's so much money involved you won't do that until you're forced.
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worf
THATS WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR.
WELL SAID.
worf.
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Tiny Cracks in the Foundation
by TMS intwo unsettling incidents are lodged in my memory.
they are unrelated, except in the general sense that they opened tiny fissures in the foundation of my belief system.
returning from the summer assembly in kansas city, missouri in 1969, i was approached by tom moore, a plain-speaking circuit overseer .
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worf
I also did not pay enough attention to warning signs.
Around 1995, there was a wt article that really ticked me off and I found myself saying "how could they have such a cold hard attitude toward people who had suffered because of listening to them?"
This article had to do with alternative military service.The article actually gave a change in how we should view it.It was now allowed.But it also said something to the effect that Christians should not feel bad that they had "followed their conscience" in this matter and had suffered for it,(ie jail time etc.), even though now there was a change in view on the particular matter that they suffered for.In other words; Just because we are now giving you "new light", don't feel bad that you suffered under the "old light".
This was a definite warning sign. I wish I had seen the full significance of it. I could have saved myself a few more years.
DakotaRed: What a story! These are the types of things the media needs to know about. I don't know how you restrained yourself from beating them down.
worf(warrior class)