i used to get a kick out of how some people used to push the elder's buttons.
sisters would wear a dress that was 1 inch above the knee just to get the brothers going.
or brothers would grow something a little longer than a mustache......what did you do to exert your independence??
When I was in High School I ''scored" with a cheerleader - ON AN ELDERS COUCH!!!! Tee hee
How? Well I was friends with the elders son. He and I had a pact of sorts. He was 21 and I was 17. We would party together so there was no problem getting out of the house. He covered for me and vice versa. Well anyway, he knew me and this cheerleader girl we getting along. He told me his parents were out of town that night and whaddayaknow!
(I think that deserves first place)
where did all that water go that supposedly covered the earth?
Yeah that's a great question. I asked my bethelite friend this question. He said that the Earth was flatter back then - no high mountains or deep ocean trenches. All the water made the trenches and mountains appear. So I looked him in the eye and said "So you mean to tell me that the Alps, Rockies, Himalaya's and Ande's did not exist 5000 years ago???" He stumbled for a second realizing how absurd that sounds and said "its possible". I said "yeah if you ignore geology." He lost his enthusiasm for the subject. How silly.
i have met a wonderful man but unfortunately he is a jw.
i have never been interested or really ever been around any religion in my life so all of this right now is very fascinating to me.
i have been thinking of studying to become one but am also having a hard time finding anything on the net that is positive about it.
No one here has anything to lose or gain by advising you how to decide. So take the advice or you, your friends family and future children will be sorry later !
JW's will desperately try to convince you otherwise.
PS.... lookout for the 'love bombing' tactic - misery loves company.
-W
this double life is slowly eating away at me.
i'm planning to fade away and need all the ideas i can get.. it needs to be a fade because my parents, who i care deeply about are heavily into it and my poor hubby is wanting to obtain more privileges in the cong.
me, on the other hand, can't stand going to so many meetings and service and giving parts, etc.. very much appreciate your ideas and support.
My wife and I were rather high profile too. We were able to fade together, but we moved far away.
It sounds to me that you need to make some pretty important decisions and prioritize your life. I don't think you can fade without you hubby fading too. I also don't think you would be happy in that kinda situation either. You would be forever reminded of the failure you turned out to be. Imagine the feeling you would get by running into all of the Dubs from the hall trying to 'encourage you' in you weakened state. Your husband may start to resent you for holding him back from priviledges and making him look bad by the Elders.
I think you are at a crossroads. You have the power to make your life what you want it to be. Decide what you will and will not live with, be confident and get started soon and surround yourself with people who will support you. Unfortunately, if you compromise your feelings for the sake of your husband you may just end up depressed and miserable for it. Be true to yourself. It sounds like you are already sick of it so get going girl! I think alot of people here can testify that the brief period of turmoil is nothing compared to the freedom and well being once you're out.
PS, your husband may say he will leave you if you fade, but you never know.
-FW
every so often i get a phone call from jt and i thoroughly enjoy our conversations.
no only do i learn a little more about the inner workings of bethel, we also end up laughing to the level of blowing snot out of our noses.
one of the topics that we discussed this time was the inability of farmers, short order cooks, and retired janitors disguised as elders that try to use their breakfast cereal box psychology to fix complex marital problems of their flock.
I forget his name right now... He was a short little dude with a high pitched laugh. A nice guy. He went to one of the PA congregations while he was at Walkill. Man this is gonna bug me.
every so often i get a phone call from jt and i thoroughly enjoy our conversations.
no only do i learn a little more about the inner workings of bethel, we also end up laughing to the level of blowing snot out of our noses.
one of the topics that we discussed this time was the inability of farmers, short order cooks, and retired janitors disguised as elders that try to use their breakfast cereal box psychology to fix complex marital problems of their flock.
Yeah, all the slick sistas had their 'gleaning' tupperware already in their hand during the prayer! They were pro's at scouting out the guest tables and promptly asking - "is anyone going to have anymore of the turkey etc". Those poor guests never knew what hit them! They would also scurry in front of you and pretend they didn't just cut your slow a$$ off on the way to the food.
I also remember a guy who drove the Bethel vans for 15 years. He finally got married, but the sista had some health issues so they said "sorry, but you and your new wife haven't been accepted - buuuh bye." This guy was in his mid forties having to start all over with nothing.
what weird things do only jehovah's witnesses do?
OK, this isn't limited to JUST JW"S, but my gawd it seems like there is always a subcult in every congregation that follows some sort of QUACK ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE or PYRAMID business scheme.
I met an "iridologist" who reads your eyeball like a palmreader then prescribes high $$ herbs - usually some sort of colon cleanser concoction.
I met a quasi massage/chiro-healer who can cure anything through chiropractics.
I met dubs who swear that all you have to do is hold medicine up to you abdomen to see if it 'reacts' to you body to determine if you need it.
I know dubs who swear they will retire early and pioneer from the profits of AMWAY or EXCEL Telephone or HERBALIFE or MELALUCA or some other stuff like that.
Herbs, minerals, Amway and nearly all other 'sucker-schemes' - that gets my vote.
i have often asserted on this forum that the published totals for publishers and hours.
are not to be believed.
first, because i'm a fake publisher ( like many) and second, because.
It was an unspoken understanding among many pioneers and publishers I knew. "I won't say anything if you don't", waste all the time you want attitude. One girl did ALL of her college homework while riding around in the back of the car. It would actually annoy her to have to close up her books to go knock on a door and flip out a magazine. She'd come right back and pick up where she left off.
I think it's great. It's basically a further evidence that the R&F are taking what the Borg says with 'a grain of salt' - "yeah, yeah, yeah, more meetings, more study, less fun, less complaining (whatever)" . Boy that must drive the control freaks in Brooklyn crazy!
i am trying to help someone and need some advice.
when i left the jw's, i was one of the fortunate ones in that i was never shunned.
my family has unconditional love for all their kids which seems to be a hard concept for a lot of active jw's to grasp.
Just a thought,
She can still appeal to her family's sense of... well, Family and just drop them a line (telephone) or write a letter occasionally. I'm sure her letters will be read regardless of the 'rules'. Anyway, she shouldn't rant about JW's or take any jabs, just let them know what she's up to, how she thinks about them - happy stuff. She should take the 'high road' and express unconditional love for them regardless of their WT inspired shunning. I think in time things could soften. I think JW's in general are not so quick to hang on every word from 'the Society'. Heck
I make it a point never to call my family if I'm in a foul mood. I try to convey just how happy I am despite not hawkin mags and makin meetings (which is terrifically easy). It's about the best you can do.
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its all in the heading and incase any of u are of greek origine or know the language ....my user name is meant for all of u in a way u formed ur own congregation against god and his people ...there for my user name is a remider to u all of what u come off as.....good bye maybe some of u will see what teh world is like as i have and seek god once again maybe not watever the choice maybe god will judge u ..all off u and me aswell and al lhis peopel aswell.
bye
Bevis I mean zelvis, be a good boy and go highlight some kingdumb ministries. And press those geeked up clothes so you can peddle some more books about the 'troof'. And the next time you're trolling around the assembly hall wondering why there are no hot women, keep you chin up cuz in the new system, that haggard, buck tooth gal you met while peddling your comic books in the hills of West Virginia will turn into Cinderella - just like in the magazines!
And that little voice in the back of you're head that dreads the pathetic existence you're destined to live as a 'dub'...... ignore it, it'll go away.
Now go snipe some other board
