toto555
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CO overruling elders on appointments
by toto555 inif a brother wants to reach out to be elder, yet brothers are holding him back for dubious reasons, can/should a brother approach the co and ask him what he needs to be done to be appointed or perhaps having a discussion along the lines of why the elders are holding him unfairly back.
anybody have any experiences along these lines?
is this a good strategy?
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How hard is it to get an elder removed?
by toto555 ini've seldomly seen it happen.
they practically have to cheat on their wife or something before anything can be done.
the "brother" can act like a total dick, show favortism towards others (especially includes appointed certain brother they like as elder and ones they don't like they ignore them no matter how well they qualify), selectively enforce rules on certain ones and ignore them when their buddies are involved.
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Can the elders make up stuff to make sure that a brother pretty much never gets to be elder?
by toto555 init's been my observation that if the elders really want a brother to become elder, then they will come up with all the reasons in the world to appoint him.
the reverse is also true.
if the elders really don't want a brother to become elder, then they will make up all sorts of reasons not to appoint him despite perhaps the brothers many years in the truth, great talks, spirituality etc.
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How bad is the nepotism really with the appointments of elders?
by toto555 ini've seen brothers related or who are friends of elders who get appointed after only 6-12 months as an m.s.
while they were other brothers slaving away for years.
elders also who promote their sons and basically say to other young brothers "to heck with everyone else".
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Elders abuse of power
by toto555 inelders holding brothers back from being elder because they didn't like them, had a grudge, jealous of them etc.
selective enforcement of rules as well.
what have you guys seen over the years?.
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Opinionated Elders
by toto555 ini've seen many elders over the years instead of using god's word to explain how things really are try to use the bully-pulpit on the platform and try to just bully brothers and sisters into their own selfish opinions and then trying to pass them off as fact.
i also here that this goes on further up the chain.
what stories do you all have on this?
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Elders who criticized brothers talks for being TOO strict?
by toto555 indid this ever happen to you?
did you ever try to teach god's word the way it was supposed to be rendered only to deal with elders and others who wanted you to "tone it down" or have your "words seasoned with salt" although you weren't saying anything wrong.
you were just telling the truth and they didn't want to hear it.
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Elders = Politicians???
by toto555 inwith all the back-door politics, white-washing of elder mistakes, selective enforcement of rules etc.
aren't elders not much different than any other political position out there in the world (mayor, congressman, senator etc.)?
doesn't the same hold true as well for co, do, etc.?
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If you're a really good speaker, did you ever notice others who were jealous?
by toto555 inso did you as a witness ever notice this?
perhaps if you were being looked at for an elder appointment.
did other elders view you as potential competition?
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Brothers who were held back from being elder for stupid reasons?
by toto555 indo you know of any cases where brothers didn't get to be elder for a stupid/bogus reason even though they otherwise qualified?
do you think some/most appointments are politicially motivated?
how much do you think politics plays in the appointment process versus merit?
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