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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

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  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  ARE THERE "TWO HOPES".....earthly and heavenly FOR TRUE CHRISTIANS?

  by wakingup60 in

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  the last time i went to the kh was memorial 2013 and the elder giving the talk.

  spooke of "two hopes" for christians...i sat there and wondered how did i. ever believe such a thing!..its not even in the bible!!!

  !that did it for me!.

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  Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?

  by minimus in

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  i would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .

  and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..

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  The Fullfillment of Prophecy about the last days in The 1st Centruy

  by cassuk11 in

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  the last days were about the destruction of jerusalem and the temple in the 1st centruy.

  the messiah was talking to those who asked the question , he replied tot hem and did not lie or mislead.he told them not us that soem would still be alive when he returned.

  they fully expected it andwere waiting.he did not lie .he cmae back for his chosen ones and took them back where they serve in the kingdom .most of the apocolyptic language used were symbolic metephors randt akenform the old testamant.

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  Question regarding Faith...(adamah)

  by tec in

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  peace!.

  you have stated (and others have agreed and stated the same) that faith is not based on evidence, or it is not faith to begin with.

  may i ask you, then, if you think the apostles and early disciples, who walked with christ, had faith?

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  The Bible and it's promise of Heaven and various other things

  by confusedandalone in

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  now in no way am i trying to discredit anyones beliefs or make fun, but once you get to heaven what is the plan once you get there.. of course, we always overlay extremely physical things upon the experience of heaven... milk and honey... ruiling over the earth etc... truthful the whole idea sounds so boring / mundane /monotonous.

  spending all of eternity serving god by carry messages here and there?.

  watching humans... i guess spending time with family that are also there and reminiscing.

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  Josephus in "the Jewish War" remarks on the nature of eternal life

  by kepler in

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  there is a corresponding topic on science and the immortal soul that reminded me of something that i had encountered in the 7th chapter of josephus's history of the roman campaigns in judea, "the jewish war".

  one version of this is available in penguin classics, for example.

  "among the jews are three schools of thought, whose adherents are called pharisees, sadducees and essenes respectively...".

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  Noah's Ark and the flood

  by confusedandalone in

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  so this morning i was thinking about a few things that hit me like a ton of bricks:.

  1. god destroyed the entire earth because man was evil - yet right after he destroyed them for being evil he said that he will never destroy all of manking again because the are evil.... 2. god asked noah to bring two of every kind on the ark.

  then he gets off the ark and sacrifices some of these animals.

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  Proof of Noah's Flood - Presently watching a Documentary about Europe & the Ice Age

  by *lost* in

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  first time i ever heard anyone say there was 'proof' of noah's flood.. very interesting,.

  showed a trawler, where the team dredges regularly in the north sea - for animal bones, massive land animal bones, mammoths.. he said, originally, the bones were sent for analysis, and the dr stated, they were proof of noah's flood.. the north sea area was a land mass of dry grazing lands.

  and it was very similar to africa.. many bones were found in london, of lions, hippos, etc ... when they were digging out the underground.. .

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  Why does an Omni... God need Jesus and the 144,000 co-rulers?

  by jwfacts in

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  at the thread about jaracz steve2 made the following interesting comment.

  by now, ted should be finding his heavenly posting a routinized bore: 4 years and still counting.

  he will have chaffed at the notion that all decisions are made by jehovah god who consults no one and who brooks no questioning or independent thinking.

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