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Different interpretation
by barbar in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
tonight i saw a group of people having a barbecue on the beach, from a distance i thought "i bet they are religious".

as i walked to my car there was oen of the group preaching to the rest about peter walking on water and when he started to sink jesus shot his hand out and saved him.

he said this showed jesus love.
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Mis-quotes
by barbar in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
the other day i read about a bible commentator who was upset that the wtbts has mis-quoted him.

they had said he felt the nwt was a good translation and he had not.

can't remember where i read it or who he was.. do you have any recollections of times that they had quoted experts in their field and misled the wt readers by implying that the expert supported the wtbts when in fact they had not.
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Maternal Instinct
by barbar in
1. jw
2. friends
it is often thought that a mother has an instinct to protect her child.

so much so that she may become extremely violent when faced with a situation that may damage her chidren.. this is not just anger but a deep instinctive emotion, that is stronger in women than men.. why?

if we were created perfect, with no danger around us.
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Do you think of yourself as an apostate
by barbar in
1. jw
2. experiences
many of the people on this site say that they are apostates.

but that is not the way i feel about myself.. i am not angry with the "witnesses" or the organisation, i don't feel that i wasted my life.

i just think that i was stupid to believe it for 30 years (well sort of believe it, i did have severe doubts on and off).
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Who actually did the disfellowshipping?
by barbar in
1. jw
2. experiences
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when i was disfellowshipped, i was really looking for a way out, although i did not want to be disfellowshipped, it was easier than making the break on my own.. i appreciate that many are distraught when they get df'd, but was the actual meeting controlled by the elders or you?.

how many were really in control of the meeting and knew that being disfellowshipped was actually a way of ensuring that you would get no more hassle from the elders?
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Does the jelly mould theory hold water?
by barbar in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i recall the idea that just like a jelly mould that has a dent all of the jellies will also be dented.

therefore just as adam was imperfect we to would have the imperfection.. if a cook makes a faulty jelly, is it the jelly that would be blamed?

no, it is the cook for using sub-standard tools or materials.. the same is true with adam, the faulty materials should have been replaced immediately, it is no good blaming the offspring of adam and making them pay for his faults.. i never could understand the suggestion that we had to pay for adams sin.
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Nephalim
by barbar in
1. watchtower
2. bible
for many years i have wondered about the nephalim, sorry if this is a previously asked question.. i don't undertsand how the angels could have got women pregnant.

surely they did not have any inherent capabilities of producing life.. it seems to me that only a creator would have that ability.

so how did the angels get the women pregnant?.
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Resurrection
by barbar in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
if a person is resurrected, are they really the same person?.

it is a bit difficult to explain this, but are they not a copy of the original person (all of the cells are new) with just the memory etc reinstalled?.

it seems to me that even if resurrection were real then it would not be the actual person who was resurrected but an image of them who thought, acted and remembered the same as the original.
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Did you really believe?
by barbar in
1. jw
2. experiences
i am interested to know whether jw's or ex jw's on this board really did believe 100%.

did you have doubts all of the time, did you have some confusion or did you never doubt at all?

i recognise that most on this board will have had doubts at the end but was this always the case when you were a good dub?
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Realisation of your immortality
by barbar in
1. jw
2. friends
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how have you coped with the realisation that you will not live forever.

if you truly believed it at one stage that you would never die and now realise that this is not the case, has it made you worried about death and how life is so short.