by ashitaka 108 Replies latest jw friends
BTW, they all have suicidal tendencies, myself included. My wife and I almost succeeded. I couldn't stand another hair to be harmed in my family. My wife's brother was going to kill himself, but now, since we have took him in, he's an adult, and respects himself, and will never let his parents push him around again. He's healthy, happy, and NOT a JW. I'll get them all out of the JW's safe and sound.
ashitaka
When should you interfere with physical abuse of a child?
Suppose the 14 year old sustained unknown internal injuries, which later cause his death? Without a police report on file, it will be more difficult to prosecute the father for murdering his own son.
A report will also prevent civil actions against you by the family, for not reporting the crime.
That is why, providing that you or a reliable individual observed this child abuse, you should file a formal police report. Indicate you are concerned that the 14 year old might have sustained hidden internal injuries due to the terrible fall down the stairs and subsequent beating; that you want the child abuse documented should the boy later develop complications that require criminal charges and/or civil action by the family against the father.
Also, getting a criminal conviction for assaulting a child will effectively "mark" the abuser for life. I don't think there are any statute of limitations on the number of years a police record exists for a crime.
Derrick
To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.
-- William Blake (Auguries of Innocence)
Blondie,
Laree is foremost in my mind.
ashi
Ashi,
I may have missed something, but does your father have any positions in the congregation?
That fact was used as a weapon against me so many times!
I was told that I could be the cause of my father loosing his position in the cong.
Now that I am out from under their power and influence I see that I would have not been the cause of the loss of position. It would have been his fault!
It is so hard to think streight when you are a kid under that kind of control.
Even your brother may not appreciate your help at first.
Just know we're thinking about you and your family and please keep us posted.
Ranchette
(((((((((ashi)))))))))
IMHO,it's waaaaaaaay overdue for some law enforcement and social service intervention. Please call them!
You stated he's acareer abuser? Well nothing you say or do is going to stop him. All the more reason for intervention if suicidal tendencies are present in the family. This is a family in crisis.
Evryone of them needs some type of intervention from the various agencies. This is not a time to be worried about their 'feelings'. This about stopping the violence that kills!
Only a pro-active approach will work here.
Forget about the cong /elders. This is not their bailiwick. They have no training or skills here. This belongs in the hands of professionals. Let us know what happens.luv,Tina
Ps Rick All it takes is 'suspected' child abuse. being reliable and observing it has nothing to do with filing a report. The laws are clear on this.
Vive Bene
Spesso L'amore
Di Risata Molto!!!
Steps to take NOW!!!
1. Phone the police. Tell them you want to make an incident report. They will not act on it, just document it. Get the report number for future use. Go to the police station tomorrow and get a copy of it, it's free.
2. Go to the local court house and apply for a protective order. There will be an advocate there to walk you through. You state what happened and that it is on behalf of your brother and any other minors in the home.
3. Take your mother to the YWCA locally and have her talk to a counsellor about enabling abusers. She can be criminally lible if she doesn't stand up to him and allows this. They know what to do.
4. You have to act. NOW!!! Better that than go to a funeral.
E-mail me if you need help...please.
In my doctor's office is a poster of a casket with a beautiful rose spray covering it.
The caption below says: The only time he sent her flowers was after he beat her to death.
Tina made excellent points - NOW.
waiting
You know what's happening? My father's helping my mom clean (my mom has a cleaning business), and everything's tense, but OK.
OK?!?!?! OOOKKKKK?!?!?!?!? Not in my book.
I don't know what to do now, even my little brother told me to drop it. Doesn't want the fuss.
My family unanimously voted not to tell me about this. My wife told me though. They are afraid that I'll do something, not violent, but legal....
I don't know folks, I don't know, I don't know......
ashi
Howdy Ashi,
I am NOT a professional - but your pig bastard father is making it ok with your mother - until the next time. Your father, mother and brother are covering, making things ok - until the next time.
They have been taught to protect the abuser and family unit. The pig is ingratiating himself so that no one will report him to the police.
I am NOT a professional - but, imho, this needs to be reported to the authorities - NOW!
The bastard KNOWS what he's doing and who he's dealing with. He KNOWS how to manipulate his family. He's manipulating them to manipulate YOU. Step back - it's your primary defense. And you are your brother's defense - and you know it. And it seems that they know it too.
I'm sorry that you find that you have to take in the refuse (children) of both sides of the family. It shows a tremendous amount of humanity in you and your wife. Take care and act.
waiting
