My father just beat my brother-

by ashitaka 108 Replies latest jw friends

  • Tina
    Tina

    great suggestion alamb!
    You're so right. If one doesn't feel the moral or ethical obligation to intervene,then by all means,take it to a mandated reporter. let them get the ball rolling.

    Another thought here. Plans sound really good. We've designed and implemented them in cases of women and domestic violence. However,the plan design changes when a child becomes the issue. It then becomes incumbant upon intervention. It's been qualified that a spouse abusing a child is more often than not abusing the partner as well. The women are so caught up in the cycle of violence,that they are unable to help the child,let alone themselves. hence,the plan changes for the benefit of the child. becuase someone needs to step in as this childs advocate and protector. more thoughts.T gonna run out of posts,so if I dont respond that's all it is. Have a good night as possible all.luv,T
    CALL 1-800-4-A-Child now!
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    Di Risata Molto!!!

  • waiting1
    waiting1

    No offense meant, but the little brother who was thrown down the stairs is the primary concern here.

    1. Protect him - get him out if possible.
    2. Protect mother - get her out if possible.
    3. Deal with father.
    4. THEN deal with emotions.

    The mother may NEVER go against the father. What? Let the kid get the hell beat out of him while they learn to feel through their anger? NO! Get the kid protection - and the mother, because the father might turn on her next.

    This is NOT a new situation, as Ashi has said - if the police have never been called in before - it would be a damned good learning lesson for the father. Perhaps a night in jail might help him calm down more than doing cleaning with his whipped wife. Perhaps he'll get the shit beat out of him. One can only hope.

    But - Get help for the boy.

    Wendy, no offense again, but you said in a previous post, several months back, that you had completed a 7th grade education. You and JanH were in a discussion and afterwards, you said you wanted "to get" an education. From your actual posts, exactly what are your professional accomplishments? What are you state accredited in - within the mental health field dealing with physical abuse - and when & what state? What exactly is your profession in dealing with old people? I was under the impression when JanH called you ignorant - and I defended you, that you had some nursing experience. Are you a registered nurse? LPN? Nurses Aid?

    And btw, even if you are a highly state licensed professional with experience at age 26 with 2 kids and one on the way, and been on your own since age 16 - it doesn't make you necessarily right. Just like me, you can be wrong. The only difference is, we won't be dead wrong - the little brother might be.

    This is serious crap we're talking about - and I'm not a professional. This is when I take a bow to professionals and say "call professionals."

    Tina & I may not get along - but on this one.....this family needs professional intervention - pronto.

    waiting

  • Tatiana
    Tatiana

    Ashi, nothing, nothing, nothing matters right now but getting your brother out of that situation. He's only 14. A baby. Helpless. Your father has manipulated everyone. Probably told your brother he'll be in a foster home and get beaten up worse every day. Who knows what kinds of things he's told him.

    No matter what the outcome is, you have to contact the authorities. Even if nothing happens, or only a report gets written, maybe ONE of these things will make your father stop and think the next time he decides to beat up on a helpless kid. His own flesh and blood. Maybe the threat of jail time will make him hesitate. As it is, if no one does anything....it really will be worse the next time, and the time after that...

    Did your mother take him to the doctor at all? To make sure he was okay? If not, he needs to go. All you need to do is the right thing. And you know what that is. Take care of your brother.

    My love and hope are with you and him....

    April

    "Love never dies." Voivodul Vlad Draculea (from Bram Stoker's Dracula-1992)

  • Andee
    Andee

    Mommy,

    And it appears his little spat is over for tonight.
    When is throwing a 14 year old boy down stairs, then punched afterwards "a little spat"?

    Making me wonder what your "training" was?

  • TR
    TR

    Ashi,

    You need to call the cops NOW to save your brother. It doesn't matter what your mom says. She's just as bad as your dad if she doesn't do anything. You gotta get your bro outta that house, man.

    Sorry your dad is such a sick monkey. He needs some of his own medicine, if not, then maybe some prison time is in order.

    TR

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
    —Edmund Burke

  • waiting1
    waiting1

    Well said, Tatiana.

    Thank you. Survivors tend to get bent out of shape.

    I apologize if I've come on too strongly.

    But the little kid is the primary concern.

    waiting

  • kevin221
    kevin221

    Ashi,
    Get your brother out of that house tonight, if you can. You have the power to stop the abuse if you take it now. Your father will not change, once an abuser, always and abuser. I still bear the scars of my fathers hate, don't let your brother share in that, please. If you need help, I am here. I will call the authorities for you, if you feel you can't. I'm serious, it must stop, and it must stop now.
    Please know that you are in my thoughts, and I'm serious, if you can't turn him in I will. Just email me his name and the city he lives in and it's done my freind.

    As my love would say,
    Peace and love to you and yours.

    Kevin

  • lauralisa
    lauralisa

    Oh my god, this is just sending me right over the edge.....

    This is a no brainer, people!!! The concern about "where the mom/other kids will go" is not relevent.....

    Arrest the fucking bastard and get HIM the fuck out of there. Shout loudly, Ashi.

    SHOUT FUCKING LOUDLY AND CLEARLY ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON.

    DON'T STOP SHOUTING UNTIL SOMEONE IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY HEARS YOU.

    If the world didn't suck, we would all fall off
  • mommy
    mommy

    Wow,
    Alot of comments here. Okay first I am a LPN who has worked in several different fields of medicine each requiring additional training, and certification. One of those includes a woman's shelter program where I recieved over 100 hours of training. And saw hands on this scenerio several times.

    When I said What has happened is not anything that has not happened before I meant, this family is used to being abused. It is a cycle that they have gotten used to. Anyone of you who have been in this type of home, knows what I am talking about.

    I also said. And it appears his little spat is over for tonight. This is usually part of the cycle. The abuser loses it, attacks, then the make up phase occurs. Where all family members acts as if nothing happened. As Ashi has already posted, this has already happened, everything is forgiven and his wife is told to hush about it. In my initial post I told Ash how serious this was, commenting that death can be an end result. I am not in anyway demeaning this at all.

    For all of you who have idealized ideas about our country and the laws that are in place...Please take note.

    The police will arrive, perhaps they arrest him, that is dependent on the story of the son and the mother. At this point who is to say they will testify against him? Okay so bring in Ashi's wife...which will be a bigger strain on the picture, and she accuses him, and he goes to jail. The probability of him being arrested toinight is very slim.

    What do you think the wife will do in this situation? Do you think mentally she feels secure enough to end the abuse? Obviously not, she has already forgiven him. If she is not ready to back up her children, the 14 year old is left in the home, the likely hood of him being removed is soooooo narrow I cannot even tell you, it makes me sick. Even if this does start the ball rolling for social service intervention. That takes a good 3-10 days, the whole time, Daddy dearest has to unleash the rage from being arrested, or to play nicey nice and reprogram his family again.

    This is a cycle, a pattern that is destined to be repeated, over and over again. If Ashi does go in tomorrow and speak to someone, force them by his presence, instead of making a call. Then the likelihood of a happy ending is more real. The mother, and the son need to be counseled on how to stop the abuse. They need to feel safe now, and the only way for them to feel this way, is a long term goal.

    Plus, no offense but you are asking alot from a person who has suffered this abuse himself. He realizes, all of the implications. He is young himself, and has his own family, the burden he must feel now is unimaginable. I just wanted to let him know that calling the police is not the only option. Everyone here will want to know how this turns out. Many are enraged, and want fast answers. But, you are pushing Ashi to make a fast decision on a problem that does not have fast solutions.

    As I said before, the way the system should work, is not the way the system works. I am sorry to say, but that is a fact.
    wendy

    When I leave, you will know I have been here

  • siegswife
    siegswife

    Ashi, I'm so sorry to hear that you and your family have to deal with this maniac. I hope your brother is alright. I have to agree with what Tina said about secrecy being the power behind this behavior. Your father has to called to account for his actions. I read that you have a plan, and that's good, but remember things don't always go according to plans. Your brother and any other children in that house have to be removed from that situation as soon as possible. Your mom should get out too. Your family has allowed this to go on long enough and the adults need to stop enabling that man to continue making your lives a living hell. I hope things work out for you all.

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