Outlaw, who is Fred Hall?
Hey, we can chat here with no interruption because Ms. Reniaa won't read your posts or Mary's or mine.
Is Fred Hall a former JWD member?
StAnn
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Outlaw, who is Fred Hall?
Hey, we can chat here with no interruption because Ms. Reniaa won't read your posts or Mary's or mine.
Is Fred Hall a former JWD member?
StAnn
does preaching to apostates count toward service time? i'll write to the society and let you know Reniaa - wouldn't want you to waste your time.
Is Fred Hall a former JWD member?
Yep....He's an oldie.....hasn't posted under "Fredhall" for a long time, but his circular reasoning, ignoring questions, and insane behaviour is a mirror image of Reniaa's. He was a total whack job who would get into these 'debates' with AlanF and Alan would just leave poor Freddie in the dust.
they have never actually given a date for Armageddon,
Actually, I will go find something that will go directly against these words. Give me some time on that: it's massively archived. And be prepared for some extensive reading. When you see what WTS did then, you'll see why it's hard to find them doing it again!!!
PS: While this upsets me, I'm not interested in ad hominem attacks per an individual. My comments on stupidity had to do w/ WTS's cover-up mistakes.
Mustang
they have never actually given a date for Armageddon,
mustang said: Actually, I will go find something that will go directly against these words. Give me some time on that: it's massively archived. And be prepared for some extensive reading. When you see what WTS did then, you'll see why it's hard to find them doing it again!!!
Yep.....a few have already given her the quotes proving that they indeed predicted 1914 as the date for The End. Plus, Reniaa obviously read my entire project which had a ton of quotes from the WTS's own literature, so she's more than aware that they've made false predictions, even though she likes to pretend that she's not.
"DEFENSE" is spelled "DEFENCE" in Great Britain...
Sorry about that, but that wasn't the only word that I noticed that was spelled incorrectly. I always think I am reading something written by a ten year old if a person can't spell. That's just one of my pet peeves, and please forgive me for that. I suppose there are some intelligent people who just can't spell but I will not be reading anything they write. Peace and love!
Commentary on 1975 AND 1925, with quotes, found in a post by uncle_onion @
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/14841/1.ashx
When Rutherford said the end was 1925, and 1925 came and went, they blamed it on the "brothers" in 1926. They were a lot more careful in 1975, that is all.
Here is a short sample. This will serve to help others find this in search. It is in the 4 th post in that thread. It is VERY long. Read from this point on and you will see the "blame the brethren" tactic being born. BTW, this is the background for the famous "millions now living will never die". The sample:
"Hence, they have responded zealously to this call sounded at a landmark convention in September 1922: "This is the day of all days. Behold, the King reigns! You are his publicity agents. Therefore advertise, advertise, advertise, the King and his kingdom."
Other than a few lines from one of Brother Rutherford’s talks, Witnesses in general know nothing more from that nine-day "landmark convention." The following Watchtower quotes fill in just exactly what regarding the Kingdom they were "advertising." Notice in particular when in 1922 they believed Christ’s presence began, and what they were so eager to "advertise." These important facts are rarely mentioned in connection with this "landmark convention."
"The period must end in 1925. The type ending, the antitype must begin; and therefore 1925 is definitely fixed in the scriptures. every thinking person can see that a great climax is at hand. The Scriptures clearly indicate that the climax is the fall of Satan's empire and the full establishment of the Messianic kingdom. This climax being reached by 1925, and that marking the beginning of the fulfillment of the long promised blessings of life to the people, millions now living on earth will be living then and those who obey the righteous laws of the new arrangement will live forever. Therefore it can be confidently said at this time that millions now living will never die." (Golden Age, Jan. 4, 1922, p. 217)
Mustang
they have never actually given a date for armegeddon,
for refuation of that quote see
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/14841/1.ashx
4 th post in the thread contains this:
"The period must end in 1925. The type ending, the antitype must begin; and therefore 1925 is definitely fixed in the scriptures. every thinking person can see that a great climax is at hand. The Scriptures clearly indicate that the climax is the fall of Satan's empire and the full establishment of the Messianic kingdom. This climax being reached by 1925, and that marking the beginning of the fulfillment of the long promised blessings of life to the people, millions now living on earth will be living then and those who obey the righteous laws of the new arrangement will live forever. Therefore it can be confidently said at this time that millions now living will never die." (Golden Age, Jan. 4, 1922, p. 217)
Mustang
Melody, I knew a Chris Blankenship from Georgia. Would he be any kin to you, as far as you know?