Why 144,000 ?

by exwhyzee 74 Replies latest jw friends

  • JWoods
    JWoods
    144,000 is a vibrational frequency, the number of harmonic resonance, required to make the "ascension" from a 3-dimensional carbon-based body to a 4-dimensional crystalline-based body, otherwise known as a "light body". This is the kind of body Jesus had after his resurrection, where he could walk through walls but was still able to eat regular food with Doubting Thomas. If you're willing to accept that there may be intelligent life outside of the Earth, then trust me when I tell you that they don't use a decimal number system because it doesn't work very well in universal mathematics. Human DNA has twelve strands, not two. Scientists have not been able to figure out the "junk" part of DNA because they're using the wrong number system. They have to use base-12 because that's the way the universe is designed. This is why the zodiacal night sky is separated into twelve parts. The human body is a reflection of the universe and so it has twelve chakras (the middle five have front and back openings) to interact with those 12 energies.

    With all due respect, there is NOTHING in that quotation that makes any scientific sense.

  • exwhyzee
    exwhyzee

    I thought the teaching was that the 144,000 would be men and womeh from all walks of life so that they could understand a wide range of human experiences and therefore judge them fairly. The thought just occured to me today that God or Jesus shouldn't need help in this if they can read an individuals heart. (whatever that means in reality) This arrangement was obviously made after Adam and Eve sinned because had that not happened, there would be no need for these 144,000 in heaven.

  • snowbird
    snowbird
    I thought the teaching was that the 144,000 would be men and womeh from all walks of life so that they could understand a wide range of human experiences and therefore judge them fairly.

    That is the teaching - WT's, that is.

    I advise you to cast said teaching out and start all over.

    Syl

  • Lozhasleft
    Lozhasleft

    We know they cant be literal Jews since Jesus told them 'your house is abandoned to you' and subsequently the good news was opened up to the Gentiles/Nations...from which to bring a kingdom of priests...

    Loz x

  • undercover
    undercover
    With all due respect, there is NOTHING in that quotation that makes any scientific sense.

    Does anything make much sense when you're on mescaline?

  • pirata
    pirata

    The number 12 signifies a divine organizational arrangement.

    The number 1000 signifies "a lot"

    12^2 * 1000 = 144,000 = an uber divine organizational arrangement with a lot of angel/people.

    I thought the teaching was that the 144,000 would be men and womeh from all walks of life so that they could understand a wide range of human experiences and therefore judge them fairly. The thought just occured to me today that God or Jesus shouldn't need help in this if they can read an individuals heart. (whatever that means in reality) This arrangement was obviously made after Adam and Eve sinned because had that not happened, there would be no need for these 144,000 in heaven.

    Stop thinking! You're wrecking the explanation! Very good point.

  • JWoods
    JWoods
    Does anything make much sense when you're on mescaline?

    Probably only more mescaline -

  • undercover
    undercover
    Probably only more mescaline -

    Thus, John's visions...

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    I thought the teaching was that the 144,000 would be men and womeh from all walks of life so that they could understand a wide range of human experiences and therefore judge them fairly. The thought just occured to me today that God or Jesus shouldn't need help in this if they can read an individuals heart. (whatever that means in reality) This arrangement was obviously made after Adam and Eve sinned because had that not happened, there would be no need for these 144,000 in heaven.

    This makes a lot of sense.

    -Sab

  • snowbird
    snowbird
    We know they cant be literal Jews since Jesus told them 'your house is abandoned to you' and subsequently the good news was opened up to the Gentiles/Nations...from which to bring a kingdom of priests...
    Loz x

    A careful reading of Romans chapters 9-11 should disabuse your mind of that notion, Loz.

    Syl

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