I HATE this religion

by brotherdan 388 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Nickolas
    Nickolas

    (Dan, pardon me while I respond to the two posts above.) Strength is precisely what brotherdan needs to feel and demonstrate right now. And I think he realises this, too. The circumstance he describes demands this above all things, far more than remote expressions of sympathy from those of us in here who can do nothing about it. He's in here looking for help, not for someone to hold his hand.

    Dan, get a grip and take control. Stop wallowing.

  • brotherdan
    brotherdan

    I just got a call from my sweet friend, Nice Dream and Ding.

    Nice Dream is my hero and she is pretty much the sweetest person you could ever talk to.

    Ding already seems like my spiritual Father. What a good guy! What an amazing Christian!

    Thanks guys! JWN is a lifesaver.

  • Ding
    Ding

    Thanks, BD.

    Hang in there.

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    We care Dan

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    you hate this religion but love this forum :-)

  • Evidently Apostate
    Evidently Apostate

    dan, do you live in the northeast? i dont know you but your current situation may be mine soon. you are thier father and nobody not even my wife will get away with my children without a fight. you cannot for the kids sake allow her to move away with them and gain sole custody. FIGHT MAN use the elders, free legal counsel, family, anything tell her you made a mistake you will talk to elders and repent and if it works good for you. let her think she is in control if that is what it takes to get the kids back in your life. use the time to set a plan in motion secretly securing yourself financially and legally then take action when you have had enough( sounds like she has done this to you) and do everything you can to gain at the very least equal custody. you cannot let her brainwash your babies or worse demonize you in thier minds.

    wish i could take you out for a couple drinks proper, but i swear i feel you and care for you, a complete stranger.

    take a moment and compose yourself, this is just the start

  • GLTirebiter
    GLTirebiter
    Well it looks like she is moving to Denver with her friend. She just broke the news to me. She's been planning it this whole time.

    I'm sorry it's come to this, Dan. I suspect you're right about her planning this. There may be more of the plan she's about to spring on you. That's why support the motion to consult an attorney ASAP! Only a lawyer can tell you for sure, but consider the following:

    • It may be possible to get a restraining order to keep her from taking the children out of state, depending on the circumstances and the laws in your state (I think you said AZ).
    • It might be to your advantage to file divorce/legal separation papers before she moves, so the jurisdiction remains in your home state. Though that does force the separation/divorce issue, which I know you wanted to avoid...but if it's at the point where that is inevitable you probably don't want to deal with courts in a different state.

    Don't stop being yourself, keep being the honest guy you are.

    Check your PM.

  • Nickolas
    Nickolas

    I'm done. All the best, Dan.

  • cognizant dissident
    cognizant dissident

    Brother Dan: I know you are grieving the woman you thought was your soulmate, but you need to secure your children first, and then you can have the luxury of grieving the relationship.

    Take a day off work (If you're drinking on the job, you're not much use there anyway). Tell them you have a serious family emergency. Use the time to visit a family lawyer for a free consultation. Tell him you don't have money, but you need to know which form to fill out for your state, to get an emergency injunction preventing your wife from taking your children out of state (where I live they can not move the children more than 100km away from the other parent without court approval). Find out what the distance is where you live.

    Do this tomorrow, and fill out the form and take it to the family court registry the same day as possible, if not, then the next. Legal aid will often help you fill it out and speed things up if a child abduction is involved. Those cases are bumped to the front of the line. When you get a hearing also apply for joint custody at the same time, so that your wife can make no decisions without your approval. You do not need a lawyer for family court. You just stand there and tell the judge what you are asking and why.

    Do not tell your wife until you get the hearing date and serve her with it as she may take the child and run if she knows your planning this. Do tell the judge that your wife is a JW and is taking the kids away in order to alienate them from you because of religious differences. Judges know JW's are nuts. Also, it becomes a human rights component, discriminating against you due to religion, and judges don't want to deal with that, so they'll go the easiest route and probably grant joint custody to you.

    If she tries to run before the hearing, the police may be willing to talk her out of it if they know you have already applied for an injunction are just waiting for a hearing. That could scare some sense into her. I know that sounds harsh, but taking your kids out of state during a divorce is a criminal offense in many places.

    When the dust is settled, you'll realize she never was your soulmate. A soulmate wouldn't do such a thing to her partner. She is also not being a very good mother as you think she is, because moving young children away from their father is very traumatic to them.

    Cog

  • Hope4Others
    Hope4Others

    I'm sorry for all the pain you are feeling right now, I honestly don't think your disagreement with religion has anything do do much

    with her leaving. I feel this is just a cover up there are other things involved that you will probably

    find out later.

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