If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children? (page 11)

just n from bethel

No worries bro. I don't mind being called a fool (I think I'm different kind of fool than the GB though), and I'm not that much older than you. Just wanted you to know that as you get a few more years of experience, and hopefully logical rationale will follow, that things will make a bit more sense. I've just had more time to read and study than you have. That's the only point I was trying to make in bringing your age up. And yes, I do have pretty decent formal uni education where I got plenty of corrective feedback that made me do the one thing JWs and pretty much any Fundie Religious belief system doesn't want me to do: think. I've had multiple professors tell me my then-thinking on history and science was bogus and unfounded on logic or proven studies and principles. It hurt my pride to learn that what I believed was just emotional based presuppositions, but it made me a better person. One that could really start to think and find truth and real humanity.

I was never born again and didn't claim to be - but I was and am still open to being proven wrong. If the Bible is true - than there should be irrefutable proof of all of its accounts in entirety. But no such proof has ever been shown, and I have looked and prayed read the bible multiple times over, and done a lot more than you could possibly imagine. Which is why it now bores me.

But, coming off a lifetime of being a JW is like coming off a lifetime of heroin. For me I can't quit cold turkey, as much as I want to, so I try to find humor in my old belief system. JWN allows me to have that outlet. Some of such beliefs coincide with other Xian beliefs, such as God killing babies. Xians believe it happened and will happen, just like the JWs. There is so much irony and nuttiness in that core belief of Xianty, that I had to make a thread about it - to laugh and get it off my chest. One day, I suppose, I'll even get bored laughing about it. I hope it's soon.

In the meantime, best wishes to you and your family, whatever belief system you find yourself with. Respect.

brotherdan

Those scriptures in Proverbs were for the GB, not you.

brotherdan

pretty much any Fundie Religious belief system doesn't want me to do: think.

And that is just not true. That's a common fallacy that atheists like to use. Those that believe in God are not "smart" or "intelligent" people, and atheists are the truly enlightened.

brotherdan

But, coming off a lifetime of being a JW is like coming off a lifetime of heroin. For me I can't quit cold turkey, as much as I want to, so I try to find humor in my old belief system. JWN allows me to have that outlet.

And I totally respect that.

just n from bethel

Good thing I'm not an athiest then huh?

Ps - this is for you

tec

First: God destroys those who wage battle and attempt to destroy the ones who love him. Protection for those He promised to give protection.

"When the thousand years are over... ... They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came from heaven and devoured them."

Second: Just as a matter of what seems to be common sense to me... if we have a creator who is love, justice, mercy - as Christ showed - then we cannot be more moral than He is. The OT portrayal of God was often wrong by the Israelite nation. If it was not wrong, then prophets would not have continued to be sent, to try and get them to know Him as He is... ending in Christ. More than that, we also have to depend on the men who wrote things down, and the men who passed things down.

I believe in the Father of Christ. But I don't believe the bible paints an accurate picture or sense of Him unless you really search OR look through Christ alone.

God is so much more than the words in the bible, as is Christ.

The bible and the words are for our limitations... not theirs.

Just my thoughts,

Tammy

brotherdan

God is so much more than the words in the bible, as is Christ.

Maybe that should have been my entire argument. Nicely said, Tammy.

cofty

The OT portrayal of God was often wrong by the Israelite nation. If it was not wrong, then prophets would not have continued to be sent, to try and get them to know Him as He is

Do you mean prophets like Amos who revealed god's infinite capacity for smiting young and old alike?

“I gave you empty stomachs in every city
and lack of bread in every town,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the LORD.

7 “I also withheld rain from you
when the harvest was still three months away.
I sent rain on one town,
but withheld it from another.
One field had rain;
another had none and dried up.
8 People staggered from town to town for water
but did not get enough to drink,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the LORD.

9 “Many times I struck your gardens and vineyards,
destroying them with blight and mildew.
Locusts devoured your fig and olive trees,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the LORD.

10 “I sent plagues among you
as I did to Egypt.
I killed your young men with the sword,
along with your captured horses.
I filled your nostrils with the stench of your camps,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the LORD.

11 “I overthrew some of you

as I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
You were like a burning stick snatched from the fire,
yet you have not returned to me,”
declares the LORD.

12 “Therefore this is what I will do to you, Israel,
and because I will do this to you, Israel,
prepare to meet your God.”

13 He who forms the mountains,
who creates the wind,
and who reveals his thoughts to mankind,
who turns dawn to darkness,
and treads on the heights of the earth—
the LORD God Almighty is his name. - Amos 4:6-13

just n from bethel

Cofty - get ready for the excuses to pile on.

just n from bethel

"Out of Context"! "That was not the cultural context!!!!"

If Armageddon came tomorrow, would Jehovah kill a billion children?

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