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Why God keeps silent to somebody even after intensive cry?
by dattaswami1 94 Replies latest watchtower bible
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designs
Don't ya just love Believers view of a selective God. 'He's not the God of everyone'. Un-frickin-believable. 'Only through Christ', what happened to the Bus load of Baptist kids who ended up in the ditch mangled and killed who believed with all their heart in Jesus.
At least one minister at a recent funeral I went to for a Christian who committed suicide admitted to everyone 'I don't know'....
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ohiocowboy
Heartofaboy. Please stop. it isn't nice. I am asking nicely.
AGuest, Thank you for the response! I, as well as others have begged to the True God, and have begged literally until it hurts and the pain is so great as I mentioned before that I could literally die. Would not a human King even show mercy on those who supplicate themselves to the point of exhaustion for help? There are so many religions, and many gods out there that people believe in as you yurself have said, so why doesn't the True God help if a person is praying to the True God, in Christ's name? A loving parent would calm their child when they need reassurance or are afraid, yet the one who supposedly created us and loves us don't/won't help.
I would never ask for money or material possesions to increase wealth, etc. but have prayed for the life and health of something that I was a Guardian of, but lost anyways, and I watched her suffer in the end. A part of myself was ripped away, and I find it a challenge every day to stay alive because of it. Prayer addressed to the True God in Jesus' name didn't work before or after to help. I know I will soon die Yes, for a fact, people can and do die from a Broken heart all of the time. I am soon to be proof.
Just a sign. I just wanted to be heard by my creator. I didn't want wealth, I just wanted to not lose Love, something there is a big shortage of in the World. My last hope.
Thank you again for yur reply.
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NomadSoul
That brings us to another point. People who pray so hard to the point of exhaustion, must feel better afterwards. And they attribute that to God.
But doesn't the same feeling come about when you pour your feelings out to another person?
It feels good when one is troubled and lets it out. I think that's why people who pray believe that God is involved because they feel better afterwards.
Just a thought.
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Curtains
ohiocowboy I am so sorry you are going through this. Something that really stuck in my mind and heart when I was confronted with a family death was the idea that God suffers with us and he is silently seeking answers with us. I am an atheist now but still embrace and retain some of the philosophical points that were made by religion.
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Curtains
I think that's why people who pray believe that God is involved because they feel better afterwards. Just a thought.
excellent point nomadsoul. I guess this would then be the opposite of cause and/to effect.
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tec
OHIO - I don't know if I can help you or not. I am sorry for your pain also. But death comes to us all. In this life. Even Christ suffered and died. The only ones who will not die are those who are still alive and belong to Christ when he returns to gather them. Everyone else until then dies, in all the various means that come from living in this world. Loved ones, children, the elderly, the weak and the strong, men and women, animals, plants.
Physical death is a part of physical life.
But true life is within us, in spirit and in heart, and it comes from Christ. We can have that now (though it will not stop physical death), and it can also be given to us upon our resurrection.
Death is not the end.
Tammy
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ohiocowboy
Hi Curtains and TEC! Thank you...
I am embarrassed to say this because of people's reactions, but the death I was refferring to was my Dog. Please don't laugh. I know people say it was just a Dog, but to me she wasn't. I had her from a puppy shortly after I was disowned from my parents, and for several years it was her and i, I didn't even really have any true friends in the world yet, had no family or relationship for years, so I became very attached, I was at a point that I could not leave her, and thankfully my job during that time was close to home, and I ran so many errands for work through the dy that i could stop in and see her, then as soon as work ended I couldn't wait to get back home to see her. Some see it as unhealthy, but for me it was a love that was so unconditional and we knew each other so well that we could just look at each other and I could tell what she wanted or needed. Same with her, she knew just by looking at me what my mood was and changed her feelings to comfort or make me happy. Thankfully I was able to return the same.She would follow me everywhere, we were almost never apart for 14-1/2 years until I was with her to see her take her last suffering breath. There was nothing more beautiful in the world to me than she was.
The thing that gets me the most is everyone in any religion I have read about does not allow a place for Dogs or any animals in an afterlife as they say they have no soul, and I have been crazed since I have lost her that I will never see her again. She was my child, my little girl, and the thought that after death that i could not see such a pure being again makes me even more depressed, because right now I am looking forward to dying just to have the chance to see her again, yet it petrifies me if there is an afterlife and I cannot even have her back after death.
I'm sorry if it sounds childish, but different people handle things differently, and I admit I am a very weak person emotionally, and even writing this is taking a toll on me.
I just don't know. I just wanted proof in this life so I could feel more comfortable if there is an afterlife.
I'm sorry for talking about this, I told myself I wouldn't open up my feeling here. I lost love, I can lose everything I own and I don't care, it has happened before, but the love I lost-I just can't handle the loss of.
I'm sorry, I feel really weird right now, please don't judge me. It hurts so bad I can't even think. I can't do this. I need some proof. Please just a little bit of proof.
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snowbird
(((((((Ohio)))))))
I don't have an answer or proof, just love and fellow feeling for you.
Once, when I was about nine, I had a pet hen; she was killed by a mink while sitting on her nest.
I've never had a pet since.
Please accept my condolences on the loss of your beloved pet.
I remember her name, but won't reveal it here.
You are too precious to suffer like this, please let us help you in your recovery.
With love.
Sylvia
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dinah
(((Ohio)))
Our pets are our best friends, especially when we go through something traumatic like losing family because of a religion. My dog grew up with me. I poured my heart out to him from the time I was 14 years old until he died when I was 28. That courageous, big-hearted, beast helped me sort things out just by listening and giving me the occasional well-placed nuzzle.
He helped me through my first broken heart, being disfellowshipped, the pregnancy and birth of my first child, a divorce, all the while he was my best friend. I still miss him. It would be beyond wonderful to be reunited with him, but I would not take anything for the memories and support he gave me when I was a lost, dumb kid and young adult.
Sylvia, I had a pet hen who met the same demise as yours. She used to love Captain Crunch cereal. She would eat it out of my hand. We used to sit on the front porch. She would cluck and we had some interesting conversations. I should probably shut up before you guys think I'm delusional or have a Dr. Doolittle complex or something.