by tornapart 218 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
When I am programming I know immediately when I have accidently created an infinte loop because whatever I am working on will crash. Even the simplest task when put in an infinite loop will crash the fastest system. Yet, somehow infinite loops exist all around me in my physical existence without any known power source... boggles the mind.
-Sab
Hey what about the knower and the known loop of conscious entaglement?
Thanks for the links frankie, very interesting!
-Sab
Maybe the best prognosis for future success among the examples described in this overview, at least on foreseeable time scales, goes to the investigation of mental quantum features without focusing on associated brain activity to begin with. A number of corresponding approaches have been developed which include concrete models for concrete situations and have lead to successful empirical tests and further predictions. On the other hand, a coherent theory behind individual models and relating the different types of approaches is still to be settled in detail. With respect to scientific practice, a particularly promising aspect is the visible formation of a scientific (sub-)community with conferences, mutual collaborations, and some perspicuous attraction for young scientists to join the field.
That's a heavy article I just scanned it and read the conclusion, but I bookmarked it.
-Sab
Is your ultimate position that there is no first cause?
No.
The Big Bang requires gravity and other things to exist.
Maybe.
So far this discussion always ends in an infinite loop of some sort.
If the loop were infinite, it wouldn't end. It generally ends when you get start ducking and avoiding questions.
When I am programming I know immediately when I have accidently created an infinte loop because whatever I am working on will crash.
Remind me not to use any code you write. If it crashes, the loop isn't infinite. If it truly is, you generally have to attach to the process with a debugger and break in to see what it going on or set breaks in the code and step through to see what happened.
Even the simplest task when put in an infinite loop will crash the fastest system.
10 PRINT "this is not crashing"
20 GOTO 10
That code wouldn't crash a PC Junior when I was 14, bro. Infinite loop.
boggles the mind
I can see that.
Remind me not to use any code you write. If it crashes, the loop isn't infinite. If it truly is, you generally have to attach to the process with a debugger and break in to see what it going on or set breaks in the code and step through to see what happened.
EP, you are a very odd person. I'm not sure how to even respond to this nonsense. I'm just going to slowly back away. See ya in another thread.
-Sab
I do!! But I don't agree with some WTS doctines
Sab - you got owned there. Give yourself some last dignity and stop. Part of the learning phase is to take a good beating and then ask yourself why and what it is about a strategy or philosophy that is unable to cope with directed logic and criticism. Truth should be relatively easy to defend simply because it is self - evident ( if I claim that the sun exists it doesn't take long to find compelling evidence).
Atheism's BS meter is a common trait for all of us ( you are capable of identifying mythological gods like Thor just as well as the next atheist ) and yet somewhere you made a distinction for one god. That choice you made doesn't overturn the laws of physics ( believing in Harry Potter doesn't make wands work ) yet your understanding of the laws of physics ( plus other facts ) presumably allows you to discount gods flying on chariots as the sun or elephant headed milk drinking gods. If you wish to use science and logic to back up your elected god you would do well to try and simply explain how the observed universe is best explained by your god; but then you have to be mature enough not to have a hissy fit when presented with data that would render any part of your conclusion as incorrect.
When I believed I used to get angry with my inability to clearly state why my god was proven by the facts. I got very frustrated as I tried to find evidence for my god ( and my god only ) and then I had one of many epiphanies. The difficulty in enunciating my position was not my fault it was the lack of sustainable evidence, my emperor had no clothes on and no amount of misdirection and straining at a gnat could make it otherwise. The mental liberation and joy that follows from allowing the evidence to take the lead is wonderful. I no longer had to exhaust myself stuffing evidence into I'll fitted mental boxes.
The beginning of everything has to have a force behind the making of it. We shall call the force God. The evidence shows harmony and cooperation in the universe, so we shall assume the force is ONE. But is the force a person? We don't know! But we wish the force IS a person. Because we think it's a good idea.
Now we know that if a person with even a little power and will can do mighty things. So I choose to be in the class of people who seek a PERSON behind the power. I don't see what's wrong with that. I am sure I am not alone. There have been other intelligent people hoping for the PERSON of God. Most notable that I can think of is Abraham. And it works! So I'm going to keep on doing it!
Sab - you got owned there. Give yourself some last dignity and stop. Part of the learning phase is to take a good beating and then ask yourself why and what it is about a strategy or philosophy that is unable to cope with directed logic and criticism. Truth should be relatively easy to defend simply because it is self - evident ( if I claim that the sun exists it doesn't take long to find compelling evidence).
Owned? What is this the sandbox in 2nd grade? I like to have discussions, possibly heated, not competitions. God vs Atheism isn't/cannot be settled by any stretch of anyone's imagination. You seem to completely misunderstand my motives. I was disappointed that only EP responded to my responses (except frankie that was cool). His responses demand either being ignored or providing some sort of defense. Sure my posts have been defensive in this thread and I wish I would have tried harder to not enable EP's superiority complex, but's really difficult.
-Sab
