Atheism 2.0

by Qcmbr 384 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  N.drew

  Deuteronomy 17:12

  Does it say?

  First of all the word "man" used has the sense of "mighty man". http://concordances.org/hebrew/vehaish_376.htm

  It means if a man is presumptuous so that he won't hear (to obey) then he is against the priest (principal officer) so then if he should seek to minister (assist, contribute) there (at the temple) it is the order of YHWH that he not judge for destroy is what he will do to this (Holiness).

  That is why the command is KNOW YHWH. Then the scripture takes the correct meaning.

  It is a difficult scripture. THINK OBVIOUS. It means a presumptuous man must not be allowed to judge Israel. The priests judged, remember?

  It does not say "put the man to death". Know YHWH.

  I'm tired. I'm not going to dissect the other one.
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  EntirelyPossible

  When atheists have been in power, it hasn't usually worked out very well for believers.

  Examples of atheists killing people for believing in God? I am presuming you are going to go with the Big 3, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

  They didn't kill anyone because they believed in god. Religion was outlawed in favor of the state and because their particual political ideas considered the state and ideas that promoted the state to be more important than the people in the state.

  People weren't murdered because of atheism, they were murdered for same reason theists murder people, the notion and practice that an idea or uniformity of the state is more important than the lives of people.
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  sabastious

  Good luck.

  Thanks! (crap now I might be over the digital limit)

  -Sab
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  EntirelyPossible

  The definition of belief fits well within the observation stage of the scientific method.

  No. It doesn't. The observation phase begins with observation, not a preconceived belief. That's why it's called "observation" rather than the ""preconceived belief" phase.
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  thetrueone

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YltEym9H0x4&feature=related
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  EntirelyPossible

  It seems you have a specific pair of spectacles, imo.

  How so?
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  N.drew

  China is atheist. How would you all like China to be boss of you?

  Those posters posted by EP are zombies. Zombies don't worship God. One day, won't it be nice, when God Means God!! There is one God the Father out of whom all things are. Someday, but not soon! all will know YHWH for good, not bad.
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  EntirelyPossible

  China is atheist. How would you all like China to be boss of you?

  the government is atheist, yes. However, religion is not banned. There are many folk religions, taoism, buddism, christians, judaism, islam, confucianism and many other. They seem to have a horrid environmental policy, so I wouldn't like to live there, however.

  Those posters posted by EP are zombies. Zombies don't worship God.

  christ came not to bring peace, but a sword.
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  sabastious

  The observation phase begins with observation, not a preconceived belief. That's why it's called "observation" rather than the ""preconceived belief" phase.

  Yes, sorry, you are right. I guess it fits better at the end of the hypothesis stage. What creates the motivation to test? Belief that the hypothesis can explain the observation. I believe you are confusing the word belief with faith.

  be·lief /bi'lef/

  Noun:

  An acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists. Something one accepts as true or real; a firmly held opinion or conviction.

  ^ It's that acceptance, that belief requires, that gives motivation to test a hypothesis based off an observation. Acceptance that what are you doing is not in vain.

  -Sab
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  EntirelyPossible

  What creates the motivation to test?

  "Hmmm, I wonder what's causing that?"

  Belief that the hypothesis can explain the observation.

  Of course you think your hypothesis can explain the observation. If it does, open it up and let others check it. If not, think of something else.That's not belief, however, in the same sense that I believe dogs exist or the sun will rise tomorrow. It's more of a suspicion or best guess. That's why you do the testing, to confirm.

  I believe you are confusing the word belief with faith.

  Not at all. Faith is belief with no testable evidence.