by snare&racket 403 Replies latest jw friends
either ignoring such cases, or making the assumption that they were wrongly translated.
I have not done that on forum so you do not know if that is true about me. I think it is not true, but I might be wrong. I have not posted my doubts about any Bible thing, why would I do that? Here?
I'm not stupid. Hahhahahhhhhahhahaahhah
or making the assumption But the translater didn't do that, right peoples?
[face/palm slap...]
Nancy....
What does THIS comment:
"tec's apparent inability to look at ANYthing that we present her with, and her inability to say, "Ooops, I'm wrong, I see that now"...." Zid, page 17, post #8443
Have to do with YOUR comment:
"Zinnina please, can you remember where I have said you are wrong? ..." n.Drew, page 17, post #5328
Nancy, Nancy, Nancy... There is a HUGE difference between admitting that one has PERSONALLY been wrong, and being told that they are wrong.
Yeah, I know I was wrong about you being "Alice" - and I'm pretty sure that I said something to that effect, eventually. I realised that you weren't "Alice", soon after you pointed that out. Your comments have a different "flavor" from hers, but it took some time for that characteristic to become apparent.
OK! Honey child. But my name is at the top of your post.
Thank God it's over a half hour old. That's me jabbing with a stick. But not you Zid. I don't remember who it is I'm jabbing.
Maybe it just comes down to mathematics . . .
The contemporary evolutionary model which most atheists find reasonable, gives humans a fighting chance . . . subject to the laws of environment and natural selection.
Fundamentalist religious belief on the other hand (depending on which one you espouse), subjects you to divine selection . . . which seems to accrue many more casualties (going by the record of the Biblical God) than the former - 7 billion instantly slain according to JW's.
Perhaps atheist just find having no God is more loving than having "Yahweh's" love poured out on them. They are free to show love to neighbour born of their humanity . . . and not to get gold stars on Yahweh's behaviour chart.
It was the most honest thing I ever heard a believer say. She was aware that science could debunk creation, therefore she didn't want to look at science---she just wanted to believe. I actually couldn't fault that. I'm 100% sure I have believed things just because I
wanted them to be true
Yes, I have never known an atheist to have a problem with this.
But it seems that it is a problem for (some) atheists if a theist accepts both science AND God. Even if they are being just as honest. Stating otherwise would be dishonest.
tec's apparent inability to look at ANYthing that we present her with, and her inability to say, "Ooops, I'm wrong, I see that now", is what causes me to view her "righteousness" with an extremely calloused eyeShow me an example please.
Remember that you did not admit that you were wrong when you said that the bible itself claims that it is inerrant and infallable. I asked you to show me the scripture that claims this? You could not do so. That is because you are wrong in that thought, but you did not admit that. Now you are accusing me of being unable to admit that I made a mistake or was wrong... and yet, you are doing that thing yourself.
You say I don't believe in evolution. I do, and never said otherwise.
You say I think atheism is a religion. I don't, and never said otherwise.
You say I think all gods are the same god, just different understandings. I don't think this... however, on this I will concede that I might have been unclear. Sometimes I write out my thoughts as I am thinking them, as opposed to thinking about them first. I did that in this instance, so I will take the blame for being unclear. I did, however, clarify my position.
Peace,
Tammy
On behalf of Tammy I will again say that some of you seem to be not listening to her. She is not cherry picking. She is being "long suffering". She is waiting on the Lord and will not draw conclusions for you guys.
She is amazing. I have never seen such patience.
"Ziddina I am hardly going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say the concept of a "deity" is more of a psychological construct;
But thanks for the phrase as it might answer Woods query about why the Jews were chosen, but not anybody else. ..." n.Drew, page 17, post #5328
Again, Nancy, Nancy, Nancy....
FIRST of all, my posts on this thread ARE NOT ABOUT YOU.
Secondly, I would love to hear your explanation of how a "psychological construct" can explain why the Jews were chosen...
Hmmm.... I used what I thought was "common definition" for a "psychological construct"; I used the wrong term...
"Psychological Construct" means:
"Construct refers to any complex psychological concept. Examples would be a person's motivation, anger, personality, intelligence, love, attachment, or fear. A Construct's height, weight or depth cannot be measured because constructs are not concrete materials in the visible world. ..."
From: http://www.alleydog.com/glossary/definition.php?term=Construct
Let's try this term, instead...
"In fact, if pressed, most of THEM will admit that their concept of a "deity" is more of a psychological construct a psychological "aid" or "mirror", a sort of mental "tool" that helps them shape their thought processes, define their lives, and focus their energies - be they physical energies, mental energies, emotional energies, or psychic energies..." Zid, page 17, post #8443
There....
And just for your information, Nancy, I have just double-checked my information, found that it was incorrect, admitted my error and corrected it.
I don't see tec doing that very often...
Fundamentalist religious belief on the other hand (depending on which one you espouse), subjects you to divine selection . . . which seems to accrue many more casualties (going by the record of the Biblical God) than the former - 7 billion instantly slain according to JW's.
I do not believe "divine selection" is the power behind salvation. I am beginning to understand why there are some people who really are "selected" out of man kind for salvation. But that is something else.
Most of mankind goes the way of "it is mine" and "I shall have it". With too many people being thus there can not be peace. Yahweh is the guide for believers who will not go along with the world's way of "I WILL HAVE IT". God guides them through the morass so that they ALSO might "have" not because of covetesness (not looking it up) but for an inheritance. It is not working, as I can plainly see. Will it? The Bible (as I understand it today) says it will work.
Fundamentalist are VERY BAD because not only do they say "We will have" but they say "we will have heaven" and they say "God will give us what we want".
I have to go get the boys from their role playing game thing. Whenever I get a conversation going I have to go out
Tonight was crockpot night
