Why do people pretend good things about Jesus ?

by mP 418 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • mP
    mP

    Entirely:

    One has to wonder how god or a son of god, would not tell those people Pigs cannot have demons in them, instead he perpetuates their stupidity by driving 2000 pigs off a cliff. Somehow i find it hard to beleive that fellow jews would have pigs for food. Why is it the apostles supposedly good jews did not condemn their fellow countrymen for breaking the dietry laws ? The whole story seems at the very least contrived and stupid.

  • tec
    tec

    Well if a group of men came to visit your house carrying swords, how exactly wold you characterize them ? Lets assume you did not know them at all and had no bias.

    In a place where carrying swords was common? Who would think anything of that?

    (go to the states where guns are allowed to be carried, and if you lived there, you would think nothing of others carrying guns. It would just be common place.)

    Not that they were in anyone's home. They were outside, in the open, on their own, bothering no one.

    Peace,

    tammy

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    Actually, His actions saved the one man, and prevented the legion from being able to harm or possess any other person. I suppose He thought the man's life (and the lives of any other who could be possessed) had more then monetary value. *shrugs*

    Shrug it off if you like, Jesus handled it poorly. He is the freaking son of god, why did he grant the demons' request? He couldn't cast them out and either just banish them or force them to inhabit an anthill so a man's livelihood wasn't destroy? He couldn't compensate the man?

    There is no relation to the stupid destruction of the pigs and saving the man's life. One was not predicated on the other.

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    go to the states where guns are allowed to be carried, and if you lived there, you would think nothing of others carrying guns. It would just be common place

    Not true. I live in a rural country where over 7000 people have concealed carry licenses and ANYONE that legally owns a gun is allowed to open carry.

    Guess what, almost no one openly carries a weapon, it's an extremely rare sight. It's the opposite of commonplace

  • tec
    tec

    mP: Lost sheep of Israel does not apply to the Jews alone.

    side note: Pigs would not have been food to a Jewish family.

    Peace,

    tammy (off to work, see y'all later)

  • tec
    tec

    Guess what, almost no one openly carries a weapon, it's an extremely rare sight. It's the opposite of commonplace

    True. Until it becomes common-place. Then no one would think much about seeing someone carrying.

    Peace,

    tammy

  • EntirelyPossible
    EntirelyPossible

    True. Until it becomes common-place. Then no one would think much about seeing someone carrying.

    this reasoning is like Sabby's, that he's peaceful, he just happens to sometimes wish to punch people and drive nails into them, you know, peaceful until he's not.

    Go to a state where carrying guns is allowed and it's common, except that it actually isn't, until is it, then it will be.

    It's like you are saying "What I say is true, or isn't, until it isn't true, or is, depending."

    Like nailing jello to a wall ...

  • NewChapter
    NewChapter

    side note: Pigs would not have been food to a Jewish family.

    Of course not. Which makes it moral to take food from a NON Jewish family. *shakes head amused*

    I see Jesus as this mecurial figure. Perhaps there is a real man behind the myth, but it ends there. Jesus is whatever people want him to be. He changes with generations, cultures, geography. Whatever you want, he will be. Executioner, rescuer, loving, judging, dominant over women, equal to women---it really doesn't matter. It's hard to know how Jesus will be defined in a hundred years, but we can be sure it will be the best that particular culture has to offer.

    I think of King Arthur. Also a mythical person who may have had roots in a real human---but we can't be sure. However his story has changed a great deal too. Look at Guinevere----from adulteress who needs protection to warrior woman---whatever fits the culture, she morphs. I don't hold Jesus to any higher standard than I do King Arthur. He will be reinvented many times. There are people that would never accept new tales of Arthur (fundies) and only stick to the oldest stories. And then there are those who embrace the idea and make it work for them in modern times.

    He's quite the legend, and will carry on as legends do.

    NC

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    Well if a group of men came to visit your house carrying swords, how exactly wold you characterize them ? Lets assume you did not know them at all and had no bias.

    Why are you trying to smear Jesus and his followers? They were just protecting their master of which they loved dearly who was going to be tried and killed innocently. The account is beautiful in that Jesus corrects Peter's error which would have resulted in his torture and execution. It shows the devotion of the follower and love of master. Also the guards were showcased the true power of Jesus. They still could have apprehended Peter for the attack, but since no harm was done they went on their way. It's a tale of the majesty of Christ. You are blaspheming, what do you have against Christ?

    -Sab

  • King Solomon
    King Solomon

    "Christ did make a statement. By NOT keeping slaves, Himself."

    Who needs slaves, when you have disciples? The WT learns from the best, with "volunteer labor"

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