Adamah-
He regretted the decision to CREATE mankind, so He's not very prescient (able to foresee future events), is He?
Latin Thunder said-
He fortold their fate in Genesis 2:17.
Nope.
After making mankind, God declared ALL of his handiwork as "very good". If so, and humanity and the animals/plants got so off-track in such a short period of time after creating them, then God is not a good judge of His own work, as he's seemingly unable to quality-check his own work?
And you don't see how the concept of Divine prescience (i.e. knowing the future) and experiencing emotions like "regret" or "surprise" are fundamentally inconsistent? Hint: they ARE. You cannot sneak up behind a prescient being and go "BOO!", to startle it: he'd already know you were coming. Hence why the choice of "regret" is a continuity error, as if a Superman comic featured a story wherein he wore a kryptonite wedding band. The writer of the comic would blow the character's trait, and that's exactly what happened with the YHWH character in Noah account.
He said that if they made the choice to eat from the tree of knowledge they would die. He regretted the choice made by humanity because HE was the originator of their free will.
Nope, you don't understand what sin is, AND you don't understand the theological concepts of Divine Will vs mankind's free will, as understood by most theologians, since the act of eating the fruit WASN'T a choice made by exercising free will. In fact, it was the ONLY action they could've done in the Garden which WASN'T a free will choice, since God had already told them, "Thou Shalt Not Eat of the Fruit of the TOKOG&E".
Fortunately, I wrote an article on the topic on my blog that explains all of this, called the paradox of Adam and Eve.
God was accepting ultimate responsibility for the actions of humanity. Yet, even despite all of that he still gave Noah, a wicked man, another chance.
Nonsense. The Genesis account specificially describes Noah as a "righteous" man, not WICKED, since he was hand-picked by YHWH to institute the first system of justice upon the Earth, after the Flood. The humans who were wiped out in the Flood were described as 'wicked' and 'with evil in their hearts', but killing them was just the first step of God's solution of the Flood.
I wrote an article on that, too, which you might want to read, explaining the 3-part solution that God offered in the Flood account, as found in the Noachian covenant in Chapter 9:
http://awgue.weebly.com/does-jehovahs-witnesses-blood-policy-reflect-they-understand-noahs-flood.html
Oh, you might read on the claim of Noah preaching in 2nd Peter:
http://awgue.weebly.com/genesis-vs-2nd-peter-noah-didnt-preach-bupkis.html
(The book of 2nd Peter is widely acknowledged by NT scholars as a pseudoepynonymous work, for many more reasons than the ones I've written about on the blog, discussing Noah, as well as Lot's description as a "righteous" man)
The God of the Torah is a hero.
Sure, whatev. (The cheerleading skirt looks a little tight on you, but at least you're trying!)
Adam:
Check again, fella: Exodus FOUR comes before Exodus SEVEN. God predicted it in Chapter 4, and sure enough, it happened just as God said it would.
Latinthunder said-
Yes, so he knew that Pharoah would inflict upon himself the greatest of punishments and his people would suffer for it. That's a far cry from your explanation of God framing and executing an innocent king and his civilization.
Yeah, cite a scripture in Exodus that backs up that kind of claim, or you're just pulling effluvia out of your backside....
Hint: don't waste your time looking, as trust me: it doesn't suggest anything even remotely like that in the account, so you're just making up your own interpretations, violating 1st Tim 4 (again).
Careful: the NT (eg 1st Tim 4) warns of those "false teachers" who'd twist scriptures for their own ego-driven purposes. Sounds like someone we know here?
That scripture would apply to you as you're the one who is propagating false ideas about the Torah based on flawed understanding.
Yeah, problem is, have you forgotten that I'm an ATHEIST, an ex-believer? That scripture applies to YOU, if you still believe in God.
Nonsense: unless your definition of 'diplomacy' includes engaging in dishonest and amoral tactics as if looking for an excuse to kill Egyptian first-borns, then you operate by a twisted sense of morality as a blind follower of the greatest imaginary authority ever created in the history of mankind.
LOL, looking for an excuse? Your confusion on this topic is fascinating.
You've already lost this "debate", but apparently your "heart is too hard" to allow you to figure it out?
Adam
