by 70wksfyrs 173 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Ha ha you are funny.
So a mouse in the desert sees the earth "wrong" but a man in space see the earth "right".
Isn't it troubling that only a few dozen human have actually ever seen the earth "correctly" in that case?
There is no right and wrong perspective, only different perspectives.
So a mouse in the desert sees the earth "wrong" but a man in space see the earth "right".
Well done.
Isn't that a bit narrow minded? Why is one perspective truer than another? It just depends where you are looking from, surely. Maybe the spaceman's view appeals to you because it is conceptually a sort of "God's-eye-view" of the situation. Pretty ironic for someone trying to give up notions of God!
What a strange comment.
Well before the 1950s who actually saw the earth as round apart from God? You have faith in God and you don't even know it!
In fact that's a serious point. Anyone who gives up belief in God but still believes in truth is fooling themself, for without God there is no measure by which truth is to be defined. The two go hand in hand.
So you see, you are not a true atheist as I am.
She simply interprets her internal conversation as grandiose communications from an omnipotent deity.
No... you interpret Christ speaking as my own internal voice.
Yet, I know me just a wee bit better than you know me.
She alone knows the will of the Almighty.
You know very well that this is a lie, and you also know that I have NEVER even ATTEMPTED to make such a statement because such a statement would be untrue.
We are simply deaf &/or blind or proud or frightened or whatever this week's accusation is.
Oddly enough, I don't go around accusing you of anything... you do however accuse me. See below:
Astounding hubris masquerading as humility; not madness.
I once asked you what you thought of the verses and examples of those who heard Christ speaking to them (not an analogy, but actually speaking) when you say you were a christian... I'm not sure that you ever answered that question, except from the pov of an atheist.
Peace,
tammy
without God there is no measure by which truth is to be defined
You have plumbed new depths of foolishness.
I have better things to do than indulge you.
SBF said-
There is no right and wrong perspective, only different perspectives.
Nope, that's where you go off the deep end and get mired in a relativist trap.
The presence of different perspectives does NOT mean that all perspectives are equally valid: those with more physical evidence to support SHOULD triumph and be adopted, as they have more utility.
Perspectives are our individual models of reality: if there's tons of evidence to support the idea of the ball being an oblate spheroidal shape, then that's the most global Universal description which is used. The fact that there are people walking around who lack steropsis (depth perception) doesn't mean their inability to perceive depth cues causes a globe (a 3D object) to become a flat circle (2D). Even someone who lacks binocular vision (or a blind person) can HOLD a globe, and ascertain that it is has dimensionality to it, rather than being a flat disc.
Point being, a person's perception is not completely reliant on any one perceptive sense, but even can be derived by non-perceptive processes like logical inference, eg a blind person can conclude the Earth is a globe by being told it is, and by travelling around it's surface to end up where they departed.
Adam
I wonder what the world looks like to a dung beetle.
So much for "carefully considering any challenge" to your position Cofty.
adamah of course there are good reasons for favouring some perspectives over others. All perspectives are not "equally" valid. I don't know who would argue that. The important point is that no perspective should be ruled out.
Viewing the floor as hard matter helps me get up with confidence in the morning ehen putting my feet down. However viewing the floor as largely empty space helps a physicist work out his theories about the structure of matter. Which perspective is "true"? That's the wrong question. What really matters is which perspective is useful in any given situation. To ask whether something is true without regard for context is to ask something stupid and counterproductive.
