Oklahoma beheading - Islam is a disease

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  jgnat

  In 1 Samuel 15:2-3 , God commanded Saul and the Israelites, “This is what the LORD Almighty says: 'I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'" Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/Canaanites-extermination.html#ixzz3FapcfbhK

  This is not a dispassionate account of one tribe wiping out another. It was under God's command.
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  jgnat

  http://www.ted.com/talks/eman_mohammed_the_courage_to_tell_a_hidden_story

  http://www.ted.com/talks/zak_ebrahim_i_am_the_son_of_a_terrorist_here_s_how_i_chose_peace

  http://www.ted.com/talks/dalia_mogahed_the_attitudes_that_sparked_arab_spring
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  Simon

  ...so the current SIZE of the terrorist threat makes Islamic terrorism worse than any other?

  Your all-or-nothing thinking does nobody any favours.

  Huh?

  Am I condoning it? No, I'm simply saying it's not as great of a threat as islam is right now. I doubt they are recruiting people the world over.

  It seems like some people's answer to radical islam is to point to a trouble spot somewhere in the world and say "see - it can't be islam!"

  What a lame argument that is. Simply appeasement to the modern day nazis.

  By your argument Buddhist terrorists shouldn't exist. There is no allowance for overt violent acts in the Buddhist belief system

  No, just because A promotes B doesn't mean that B can only exist because of A

  Not all black things are crows.
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  Simon

  Erm "Go wipe out the Amalekites" is very different to "Wipe out any non believer"

  I think you'd struggle to make the former into an ongoing commandment whereas the seconds seems ripe for radicalization if someone were dumb enough to promote it in their churches.

  The first is almost like a historical account. When we read about Alexander commanding his men to attack the Persians we know it meant that one battle, not that Greeks should always attack Turks f-o-r-e-v-e-r.

  See the difference?
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  jgnat

  I am not defending Muslim terrorism. It's your "solution" that is off-base.

  As for the finer differences between Christian and Muslim violence, it is you who is quibbling. By and large the Christian nations today have calmed down and nicened up. But it hasn't always been so.
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  LoveUniHateExams

  are @jgnat - it's not that I don't feel sympathy for the victims in atrocities such as this. It's just that well-meaning people are denying them agency and therefore not treating them as adults. Using your reasoning, I, an Englishman, have a right to hate modern Scandinavians because in the past vikings murdered and raped my ancestors.

  'There is no Hutu or Tutsi; we are all Rwandans' - that's a good sentiment and I hope that the Rwandans can get along in peace.
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  jgnat

  just because A promotes B doesn't mean that B can only exist because of A - simon

  Quran (A) promotes Violence(B), therefore Violence (B) can only exist because of Quran (A).

  Isn't that what you are suggesting? Decry the book and Muslim terrorism is cut off at the knees?
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  jgnat

  Uni, where did I put causation? I said contributed, and I would add exacerbated.
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  AlphaMan

  Is there any proof the Israelites committed genocide against Amalekites a few thousand years ago? No.

  Is there proof TODAY that Muslims want to commit genocide against Israel and all Jewish people? Yes.
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  Simon

  I am not defending Muslim terrorism. It's your "solution" that is off-base.

  You seem to be defending the right to promote a hateful ideology. I think that is a bad idea.

  As for the finer differences between Christian and Muslim violence, it is you who is quibbling. By and large the Christian nations today have calmed down and nicened up. But it hasn't always been so.

  Exactly. So you finally get to accept that christian nations are not the problem they were when religion was running things.

  Given that you accept that Christianity changed and they used to be bad ... why is it such a stretch to say that islam is currently bad because it hasn't yet changed in the same way (and it needs to).

  It's not a race. We're not giving Christianity a medal for getting somewhere first. We just want Islam to catch up.