Top STUPID criticisms of the WTS

by JanH 95 Replies latest jw friends

  • amac
    amac

    I would assume that "functional definition" means the way a word or term is used and understood in common language and use. This is not always the same as a dictionary's definition. For instance, one dictionary definition of "brainwashing" is "The application of a concentrated means of persuasion, such as an advertising campaign or repeated suggestion, in order to develop a specific belief or motivation. "

    However, that is not what a person usually thinks of when someone uses the term brainwashing. So the functional defintion would be different than the dictionary's definition in this case.

    Am I wrong?

  • JanH
    JanH

    amac,

    I would assume that "functional definition" means the way a word or term is used and understood in common language and use.

    No. I'm sorry I did not explain this properly. We have real definitions and dictionary definitions, and then we have functional definitions. A functional definition is what you choose a word to mean for a specific treatise. Typically, in scholarly articles, the author will start by defining key terms. Then, he or she will explicitly tell the reader that for the specific purposes of that text, this term means so-and-so.

    For example, the term "religion" has many meanings and is very hard to define. If you write a text on religion, you can e.g. define it as "beliefs and practices related to interaction with culturally postulated superhuman agents." Then, your arguments will follow from this definition, and nobody can come and say that e.g. money or pop music is a "religion" and that doesn't fit your arguments, because, for your purposes, they aren't. Naturally, for others it can mean something else, making pop music or golf or whatever a religion.

    So when I say it is legitimate to use "cult" about the WTS when we use a functional defintion, it is precisely because we have chosen to ignore all irrelevant dictionary definitions, and instead focus on one of our own choice.

    However, casual writing is not explicit in defining terms, so it is IMO best to use expressions that the readers don't already have a million different associations about. JWs like playing the definiton game, so they may for example say that a cult is a group following a specific human leader (which they don't), and thus get themselves off the hook. Such charged words leads to debates about defintions that just take the attention away from the actual nuts & bolts issues. Thus, even as a functional definition, it may be unwise to use emotionally sensitive words that are not clearly defined.

    The higher precision we have in our language, the easier it will be to hit our target.

    - Jan

  • amac
    amac

    I see, that makes sense. I've heard the term functional definition but had always assumed it meant something along the lines of "real" definition. Thanks for clarifying that. I agree with everything you posted, except for...

    Stupid Criticism #78 - JWs like playing the definiton game ;-)

    Cheers,

    amac

  • professor
    professor

    I gues I'm just happy having the freedom to say whatever I want on this board. When someone is talking nonsense, they are usually called on it here. This balances out the forum. Possibly that is what JanH is trying to accomplish with this post. It does not bother me that some speculate about Russell being a Freemason. I would not be shocked if he was. It makes for some interesting conversation! It also does not hurt my feelings if someone challenges the accuracy of the New World Translation or the motives of the Watchtower Society in general.

    So I say:

    POST AWAY, FREAKS!

  • Bona Dea
  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    On June 27, 2002 at 02:10 dunbeetle made a post on this thread.

    I completely agree with her comments.

    Also, I know what is written in the Oct 1, 1990 QFR wrt to albumin and immuglobins and how the WTS proudly touts a HIS, HLC committee, on-site doctors and a review of thousands of medical magazines/journals. I also understand what monchorionic gestation is, and, so do they. I also understand what culpable homicide is.

    Enough said

    hawk

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