by cofty 342 Replies latest members politics
In their case they were motivated by western atrocities in Falkujah from what I understand
Why, when they claim motivation due to some ill of the west, are they believed.
Yet when they claim motivation based on their prophet and religion, some want to do anything but acknowledge and accept it.
So curious and strange.
Just for your information, I currently share a training bus with a Libyan. When asked what he thinks of of America, he said he does not like America. Why, because they destroyed his country.
If one wants to find out what really goes on in the world, the best thing anyone can do is go to those who are in the know, and have had FIRST HAND experience with such cultures as our own.
he said he does not like America. Why, because they destroyed his country
Then your friend is woefully ignorant of the recent history of his own country.
Cofty. Are you basing your statement on the things you hear from the likes of CNN and Fox News?
No I am in the UK I don't get either of those news outlets.
Do some research on the history of Libya. Who was responsible for the civil war and why did the UN establish a no-fly zone?
It is another typical case of the west being condemned whether it intervenes or it doesn't.
And where is it that you share this training bus, thisisme...?
I have a muslim friend one week he believes the west is to blame for all the problems in the middle east such as regime change, the next week he blames Islam the third week he blames the west for not invading middle eastern countries and making them democratic, then the forth week he is praising Saudi Arabia because they are chopping for God [ implementing sharia].
I don't know if they claimed that's what motivated them. That's what people who knew one of the attempted bombers said radicalised them. HIs best friend was killed in Fallujah and others he knew died there.
The town was destroyed, many people he knew, and long term effects from weapons containing depleted uranium affected others.
It's hard to imagine what that would do psychologically.
Maybe we are lucky we haven't suffered more in the way of revenge attacks for the illegal war in Iraq that Blair took us into.
Morpheus, strange you should ask this question. Is it because you want to establish whether we are in the UK or the US? If so, sorry to disappoint you but we live in neither country, although I was raised in the UK and left because I can see just how much the UK has gone to hell in a hand basket. The UK has become nothing but a puppet for the US.
Yeah but the West were buggered whatever they did or didn't do. I have no support for the Iraq and Afgan wars in the way they were instigated and (not) planned but the fact remains that Saddam Hussein was a evil, genocidal bastard. The Taliban were horrendous. Gaddafi was hardly a saint. Doing nothing carries it's own consequences and significance.
The worst part of the above however is not that the rest of the Arab world have done very little to help progress their region but that the West has spent decades arming and trading with despots for proxy gain and monetary greed.
It's an absolute shit storm of nonsense from all sides. What is needed is some principles from all sides. The West has to work hard to claw back the moral high ground but the Arab world needs to do a shed load more to sort it's own house out. What is really needed however is for individual Muslims the world over to instigate real change in their religion so there is simply nothing there for the extremists to take hold of.
