Signs of an Awakening Kandalini!!

by frankiespeakin 117 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • talesin
    talesin

    I'm really enjoying your conversation, guys.

    Re Chopra, I have read several of his books. "Ageless Body, Timeless Mind" is one of my favorites. He has some interesting concepts.

    One of his purposes is to marry eastern and western thought and medicines and introduce what he has learned to the world. A fascinating man.

    frankie

    I will put on my thinking cap. This subject has sparked a lot of thought for me. Thanks for bringing it up. I did have an out-of-body experience, but don't want to share it till I've mulled it over in my head a bit.

    tal

  • xjw_b12
    xjw_b12

    Hmmm, And all this time I just thought I was suffering from anxiety attacks.

  • Markfromcali
    Markfromcali

    Such phenomena may or may not happen in an actual spiritual awakening, just don't go looking for it if what you want is to wake up.

    The thing is fascination with phenomena is pretty much the opposite of wakefulness. What I've found is someone who is awake can be into this stuff or not, either way they are not fascinated because from that perspective everything in life is equally good, if they are into it it's just what they happen to be into.

    As far as qigong is concerned, there is more to standing meditation - and strictly speaking other types of 'gong' that goes deeper, I did that when I was doing Tai Chi in order to build energy. (it's a wuji meditation) You should be able to find info easily, but send me a pm if you don't. You can break down the practice in 4 parts: dispersing, (cleansing) gathering, circulating and storing, so wuji would be just the gathering, with a lot of practice being circulating. It's nice that there's this focus on health as a foundation, but in terms of consciousness it can be a basically gross state even if you work with energy.

    There are more direct ways that can lead to awakening which just happens to make you more sensitive in this regard - but don't think in terms of doing it in order to improve your energy work. Awakening goes much deeper, it's a whole other discussion from any energetic phenomena associated with it.

  • dolphman
    dolphman

    I've been undergoing a kundalini awakening for about 6 months now. It's a very terrifying experience at first and has shook me to my foundation as a human being.

    A couple of years ago I decided to try meditation as a way to help relieve stress and promote health. I read it could help in those regards. I didn't do anything specific, other than just lie still and try not to think of anything.

    I noticed during that time i would feel vibrations at times. I didn't think much of it.

    More recently, however, things began happening. My hands started assuming different shapes, almost like they were doing some sort of sign language. It would happen spontaneously, once I entered a state of meditation that almost bordered on sleep. When it would happen, it would freak me out, but I was fascinated by it. This led me to want to meditate more, to see what other things would happen. (I would later find out that this sign language stuff was called "mudras". A lot of buhddist statues are shown doing these if you look closely)

    Soon, I began doing kriyas, or what's known as yoga positions. Spontaneously, with no training whatsoever. I knew they were yoga when I did some research later. All of this would happen just as I would enter a deep state of meditation. I would just watch my body go, and let it do whatever it wanted. Another part of "me" was at work, but not the normal everyday "I" that gets up for work and crosses the street. It was quite surreal.

    Well one day, the shit hit the fan. I felt like I was gagging or being choked and all the sudden i started chanting. My girlfriend typed in what I said at the time and it came back a Sanskrit Mantra.

    This was the catalyst to what I now know as a full blown Kundalini Awakening. I couldn't stop chanting or doing yoga positions and began crying uncontrollably. At this time I thought I was being possesed by a demon, and all my old JW fears began to haunt me. No wonder they warned against meditation. I thought I was totally screwed. Luckily, my girlfriend was there to help, and I did have to call some friends. I was pretty embarrased. I LOST IT. I was totally not in control of my body. I was speaking in tounges and standing on my head.

    A few days later, I went and saw a psychiratrist, thinking i was becoming shizophrenic. They told me the crying was normal, nothing major. As far as the other stuff was concerned, they could find no rational explanation. But they never gave me any medication, and instead referred me to a psychologist with a background in yoga.

    After determining there wasn't anything clinically wrong with me, I was put in contact with a Hindu renunciate who lives nearby me. She's a specialist in this field. I've been seeing her, and my symptoms are much more controlled now. No spontaneous outbursts in public.

    But I tell you, it's crazy. Especially considering the fact that I had gave up on religion all together when this started happening.

    Apparently Kundalini isn't any different than what a Christian would call the Holy Spirit. It's just a different word from a different culture to describe it. It's function is to aid and force about a person's enlightenment.

    You can sit on a rock like a buhddist and meditate or through the activation of Kundalini it can happen. In either case, it's not the phenomena that's important but rather the end result, which is union with God, and acheiving a God-Mind in human form. To be an Enlightened being.

    In any case, I had no concious choice in it, it's just something that happened to me due to the fact it's something I was working towards in a previous life. Yes, I said previous life. Don't think I'm a cook. Remember, I voted for Bush 4 years ago. The last thing I ever expected was to be a new age freak.

    dolphman

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Dolph,

    I've had some similar experiences,,not as dramatic though.

    I've spoken some weird words and assumed certain postures while listening to meditation tapes that put me into a trance,, sometimes I would engage purposely in speaking in tongues and fall into great emotional groanings,,with floods of tears. I've laid my hands on a women's head who was suffering from cancer,,and felt electrical type currants passing from the palms of my hands to her head,,it felt like pops and snaps crackling under my hands,,and when I lifted my hand from off her head was told by her to put my hand back on her head because they felt it too,,she is still alive today,,and she had a very aggressive type of cancer(?).

    I've had lights turn on automatically when entering my bedroom,,felt burning heat that was real hot but tolerable thru the laying on of hands.

    My deep graoning experiences never have been so debilitating that I couldn't function,,but have been left very weak at times,,I had waves of love and compassion run me over with sadness or joy that caused me to fall to the ground,,so far things have been easy maybe I'm breaking in to this thing in a more gentler way than most. In the begining it was a little intense and frightning,,but I found if I just surrender to it,,it tends to be better than fighting it,,maybe that's the ego trying hard to keep its position of controll and so it causes pain in an effort to stop the process??? I don't know for sure.

    Thanks for relating your experience I have no reason to doubt it.

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Mark:
    With most of the people I've spoken to, phenomena was not the attraction. It just occured spontaniously one day (as in my own case, when I was happily minding my own business as a JW Elder). In fact, when people ask me about it, I positively disuade them from seeking such phenomena.

    IMHO the "phenomena" may occur after / during enlightenment, but are not necessary for such.
    I would agree that excessively seeking such would show a propensity to an "ego-state", which is what we are actually seeking to submit, not promote.

  • dolphman
    dolphman

    Mark Sounds to me like these are early symptoms of a Kundalini Awakening. But like LittleToe was saying, it's not the phenomena that you should be chasing. They are merely signposts along the way that show you something is afoot. These yoga postures, different states of conciousness, chi or energy work are simply working to enlighten your being and prepare it for enlightment. They are in and of themselves not the objective. If you keep meditating, you'll probably find yourself in a situation like I did. And I can tell you, when you cross the line and can no longer control your experiences, it's quite terrifying. I don't think anyone could be prepared for it. When it's THE REAL THING, it's truly something to behold. I think you have had some symptoms, but if it ever fully unleashes itself, you'll have to ask yourself how badly did you really want it. To be honest, I regret it sometimes. Or at least my "ego" does. An awakened kundalini is intent on destroying this ego state. Of course, one thing my guru warns me about is being attached to this phenomena. Luckily for me, I don't like it, since it interferes so much with normal existence. If you ever do have a bout of this again, you should go to kundalinisupport.com and contact my guru. She can help you with some questions you have about it. But seriously, I can't tell you how serious of a thing this is. Sometimes I wish it never happened. Sorry to say. The cool thing is I saw a documentary on it once. It mentioned the fact that we only use 10% of our brain. Well, supposedly once you become enlightened, you use the rest of it. Cool huh? Some researches say it's simply the next step in the evolution of human beings. We'll see.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine
    It mentioned the fact that we only use 10% of our brain. Well, supposedly once you become enlightened, you use the rest of it. Cool huh?

    *groan*

    So the "enlightened" aren't even any more "enlightened" than the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    LOL.
    Agrees with Six.

  • zen nudist
    zen nudist

    What zen practice has taught me:

    experiences are real.

    beliefs that arise in the mind come from ignorance, lack of complete information, partial understandings.

    we have all been, to some extent hypnotized or brainwashed by having ideals implanted within us by religion, culture and tradition.

    Hold nothing sacred or beyond challenge when it comes to beliefs while seeing the whole of all things including lies, as part of the sacred whole, the perfect reality.

    True liberation of the mind comes when one is free of all comparisons and sees what is right in front of him.

    acceptance of experiences as they arise without comparisons leads to the greatest clarity of mind.

    Every move I make has but one goal. Contentment - freedom from anxiety, pain, need, or desire.

    Every move I make is a gamble to some degree.

    Peace comes from accepting the consequences of each move and learning from them but never forgetting that the gambling element will never vanish.

    as to energy... all energy arises from imbalances of forces... beliefs can cause imbalances of forces and one can learn to manipulate beliefs to accomplish actions.... mind and body tied together. belief effects body as body effects belief.

    contentment comes when mind and body flow as one.... pure acceptance matched with learned skill.

    www.geocities.com/jiohdi/echart.html for more info on maniplating energy by beliefs.

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